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Posted by: AkiKan Mar 19 2010, 01:44 AM

Tell me what you think about the new add on to the main page....

Posted by: Rachel Mar 19 2010, 02:42 AM

I think it looks cluttered (especially when your browser isn't expanded to the full size of your screen), out of place (font/colors), and shouldn't be there.

I also think this should have been mentioned in the staff forum before it happened, where I would have said you should use the empty space under the dragon the left panel, which unlike the space you chose, has, as described, lots of empty space.

I also think if something's considered to be in beta testing, you should put it on a test page instead of the live page. Or at least on the subpath page.

And.. I also think it should link to a seperate page, with the full carnage schedule. Either hosted on NA or the one on boards.nexustk.com: http://boards.nexustk.com/Carnage/Cerixis%2003160130.html

Posted by: theSavior Mar 19 2010, 03:06 AM

I think AkiKan got pwnt.

-theSavior

Posted by: Miroshi Mar 19 2010, 09:47 AM

Great idea. It seems kinda big to be on the top of the page though. A real good spot would be like along the box under the Search bar. Just some ideas

Posted by: Michike Mar 19 2010, 10:20 AM

Seems like a good addition, just as mentioned, put it under the left side menu with proper layout (text and box styles).

Posted by: Falaris Mar 19 2010, 11:15 AM

It is a great idea, but it should be put under the search box on the left hand side in the menu. Some style to make it not stick out so much would be nice too. Way too cluttered and looks completely out of place up there.


-Falaris

Posted by: Paree Mar 19 2010, 11:21 AM

Love it!

Posted by: Eowen Mar 19 2010, 11:34 AM

Agreed with most everybody.

Nice addition, I like. Just put it on the left side under the search bar.

Posted by: Mazel Mar 19 2010, 12:29 PM

Seems like stabme got jacked. I love it, though. And I think it would look good under the dragon as Rachel said.

Did you write a program or something for that or do you have to update it every week. If you could automate it that would be ill.

Posted by: Rachel Mar 19 2010, 06:07 PM

Even with daily automation, it would have to be updated once a week.. as that seems to be how much of the schedule they post in advance these days.

Posted by: AllyGator Mar 19 2010, 07:57 PM

I'd love to put it on the left side but that is a HUGE problem with the way our layout is set up and our graphics. Really big one. I've tried in the past to put things over there and it just makes my head hurt and I've broken the page time after time. If someone else wants to break their head over it, please be my guest. I wouldn't mind if we put it on another page. It could easily be automated. I like Interstate's idea of just parsing the post from the game when it shows up on the board when it comes on the web. Of course that assumes that the hosts always uses the same format on the schedule and that kru always sets up the web boards the same.


Posted by: Dritz Mar 19 2010, 08:47 PM

You guys had NF login stuff on the left at one point so it's possible.

Automation based on the Nexus boards is possible but reliant on the boards being updated. I used to have a RSS feed for community events which I never released since it was pretty much useless considering how often the boards would spontaneously stop updating.

Posted by: Michike Mar 19 2010, 08:52 PM

QUOTE (AllyGator @ Mar 20 2010, 01:57 AM) *
I'd love to put it on the left side but that is a HUGE problem with the way our layout is set up and our graphics. Really big one. I've tried in the past to put things over there and it just makes my head hurt and I've broken the page time after time. If someone else wants to break their head over it, please be my guest. I wouldn't mind if we put it on another page. It could easily be automated. I like Interstate's idea of just parsing the post from the game when it shows up on the board when it comes on the web. Of course that assumes that the hosts always uses the same format on the schedule and that kru always sets up the web boards the same.


Can't you just use the old forum login space ? Add text in the form part of the forum login with whatever you need in that form part. You're probably getting things messed up because of the css which would need to be adapted / modified as well to adjust the size of what's in that part / add another part. I just analyze things for programmers when I want changes to the company's website at work, I can't actually do those things myself though.

html on main page:
CODE
<form id="forumLogin">

    <!--
    <fieldset>
        <legend>Forum Login</legend>
        <label for="forumUsername">Username:</label>
        <input id="forumUsername" type="text" maxlength="50" size="10" name="UserName" value="User Name" onfocus="java script: this.value = '';"/>
        <label for="forumPassword">Password:</label>
        <input id="forumPassword" type="password" maxlength="50" size="10" name="PassWord" value="ibfrules" onfocus="java script: this.value = '';"/>
        <input id="forumOkButton" type="image" src="/OKup.gif"/>
    </fieldset>
-->
</form>


css:
CODE
    /*

        Forum Login Styles

                             */

    #forumLogin {

        position: absolute;

        left: 0;

        top: 581px;

        width: 209px;

        height: 246px;

        z-index: 3;

        background: url('/NEONA/images/forum2.gif') left top no-repeat;

    }



    #forumLogin fieldset { border: none; }

    #forumLogin legend { display: none; }

    #forumLogin label { display: none; }



    #forumUsername {

        position: absolute;

        left: 88px;

        top: 85px;

        padding: 2px;

        font: bold 11px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;

        background: url('/NEONA/images/textboxbg.gif') left top;

        border: none;

    }



    #forumPassword {

        position: absolute;

        left: 88px;

        top: 115px;

        padding: 2px;

        font: bold 11px Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;

        background: url('/NEONA/images/textboxbg.gif') left top;

        border: none;

    }



    #forumOkButton {

        position: absolute;

        left: 110px;

        top: 145px;

    }

Posted by: Dritz Mar 19 2010, 09:21 PM

Quick glance and you should be able to just change the form tag to a div and treat it as normal. Absolute positioning is a pain though.

Posted by: AllyGator Mar 20 2010, 05:37 AM

As I said, are you volunteering to do it for us?

Posted by: Rachel Mar 20 2010, 03:06 PM

Would it be any easier to move the daily picture and server status below the dragon, then stick the carnage information where they were?

They seem to be the right width, and we talked about moving the server status down there a long time ago.


If not, would it be easier to create the daily carnage schedule as an extention of the search, rather than as an entirely seperate entity?

Posted by: AllyGator Mar 23 2010, 06:37 AM

Same problem as before.....argh!

Posted by: Skum Mar 23 2010, 12:25 PM

Am I just blind?

I don't see anything new on the front page....

Posted by: AllyGator Mar 23 2010, 09:02 PM

http://www.nexusatlas.com/index-carny1.shtml is a test page showing the carnage schedule. We briefly put that on the main page but it's been taken down for now. This thread has been talking about moving that schedule and the daily pic to the side bar.

We used to have a forum sign in graphic on the side but almost no one used it. Mug started giving us some grief over some posts on the forum so we removed it and other links from Nexus Atlas to Nexus Forums. If KRU declared Nexus Forums as an illegal web site, we didn't want Nexus Atlas to be affected because of the many players who aren't forums users.

Anyway back to this thread's discussion. Like almost all of NA's pages, the main page is formatted with tables. We have a variety of templates that accept php variables as input from lots of files. Content editors almost never touch the templates and only create or edit the small files. Reporters only work in Coranto which generates the news and archives it. I'm including an image showing the tables for the main page. It's basically one overall table with a nested table. The 1st column is the sidebar as the 1st and only row, the 2nd column is the rest of the page broken into several rows. The problem with putting something on the sidebar is positioning in column 1. It wouldn't fall into the perfect place graphically. I'm not a programmer and have never claimed to be one. That's why I keep saying that if anyone wants to fix this, you can volunteer.


Posted by: Falaris Mar 23 2010, 09:18 PM

So... are you just not aware of the line break tag? And then just use a table with a fixed width within the cell if it is running over onto the border separating the menu and the main page cells? Or if you want to get fancy, use CSS? Or could you please explain further what happens when you actually try to do something, maybe take a screenshot showing us what the issue is.

What am I missing here?


-Falaris

Posted by: AllyGator Mar 24 2010, 08:27 AM

Mainly I don't want it there and I don't want to fool with it.

Posted by: Rachel Mar 24 2010, 05:21 PM

QUOTE (AllyGator @ Mar 23 2010, 09:02 PM) *
This thread has been talking about moving that schedule and the daily pic to the side bar.


Just one or the other, not both. There's room for one of those where the daily pic is located, but not room for both of them.

Posted by: Mazel Mar 24 2010, 05:37 PM

How about a single line line where the the text scrolls up from the bottom with the day of the week, date, event, and time?
It could go by or under the "Seen Something we haven't" which I assume is supposed to be a link that is not there.

Oh well!

Posted by: stabme Apr 3 2010, 06:10 PM

QUOTE (Mazel @ Mar 19 2010, 01:29 PM) *
Seems like stabme got jacked. I love it, though. And I think it would look good under the dragon as Rachel said.

Did you write a program or something for that or do you have to update it every week. If you could automate it that would be ill.

haha. imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. i forgot to pay my hosting bill and all the files are gone though. wink.gif but my script automatically updated from the carnage board....provided it followed the right regular expression.

if you guys really want this script, i'll dig around my hard drive and send it to you guys.

for it's own separate page.

'cos, you know, we all know bright neon pink and yellow colors are a LOT MORE AWESOME

Posted by: AllyGator Apr 5 2010, 07:34 PM

I script wouldn't really help unless all future carnage hosts agree to post the schedules exactly the same every time. sad.gif

Posted by: stabme Apr 8 2010, 07:03 PM

QUOTE (AllyGator @ Apr 5 2010, 08:34 PM) *
I script wouldn't really help unless all future carnage hosts agree to post the schedules exactly the same every time. sad.gif

surprisingly, the script worked amazingly well for a long, long long time, even after i stopped maintaining it and playing nexus. it was only off for one week, to my knowledge. carnage hosts post the schedules in a remarkably similar fashion, it leads me to believe that they use a template. if it changed, it wouldn't be too hard to change since it's one or two lines of regex, i might even use DOM selectors. i have to dig up the script...but my hard drive reader is MIA

Posted by: Foxfire May 3 2010, 03:47 PM

Sooo.. I dunno who's maintaining the schedule now (I was told it was Musoyen) but it seems to get stuck every few days. I just checked it and it had the schedule up for Saturday, May 1.

Posted by: AllyGator May 3 2010, 04:16 PM

There is no script. Someone has to login everyday to reset the flag. Since AkiKan quit the staff no one does it. Musoyen was doing it. I don't get on my computer everyday and can't get on everyday and that's why it isn't updated daily. And that's another reason why I'm advertising for a programmer.

Posted by: Foxfire May 3 2010, 05:43 PM

Ooh, gotcha. I hope you find a programmer! I'll see if I can help find somebody.

Posted by: stabme Jun 4 2010, 08:30 PM

is this still a probs?

Posted by: AllyGator Jun 4 2010, 09:48 PM

QUOTE (stabme @ Jun 4 2010, 08:30 PM) *
is this still a probs?


Nope unless I don't log on for over a week which happened this week! oh nooooooo. It still requires weekly input but update it done by a cronjob now and LordAchoo wrote the script so it updates everyday now.

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