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Crafting, during Totem Time
While crafting, during totem time - what do YOU THINK is the benefit?
Increase in "crafting experience" (results are same but you get "extra credit" for crafting rank) [ 8 ] ** [29.63%]
Higher success rate (strictly fail/tarnish vs success/very successful) [ 10 ] ** [37.04%]
Improved result (not based on fail rate, but rather - your success is higher (IE: your success rate is same as none TT but you get more FINE metal then normal, or more FINE cloth, or more WELL crafted ambers, etc) [ 9 ] ** [33.33%]
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Warik
post May 12 2010, 08:22 PM
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It's no secret that totem time brings benefits.

We all know it increases earned experience.

We also know, from previous statements by Nexon and KRU, that crafting benefits are also involved during totem time.

Unfortunately, much of the crafting system is a big mystery.

So, although this will give no REAL evidence on what actual crafting during totem time means, this will help me get a better understanding of the general public opinion on what happens during totem time.


SO..........


DURING TOTEM TIME WHILE CRAFTING, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS?


This is complicated and i may not have even made my poll options clear enough... we'll see..
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post May 13 2010, 07:19 PM
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Voted for the first option. Increase in "Crafting Experience". I've never noticed a difference from getting successes, or getting FINE items.


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post May 14 2010, 07:01 AM
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My experience is only with weaving, but I tend to get a little more fine cloth during totem time. Like, 4-8 without totem time, and 6-10 with.
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post May 14 2010, 02:39 PM
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So, if it's "crafting experience" does that then mean that crafting on totem time as a legendary is the same as crafting during non-TotemTime?
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post May 14 2010, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Warik @ May 14 2010, 03:39 PM) *
So, if it's "crafting experience" does that then mean that crafting on totem time as a legendary is the same as crafting during non-TotemTime?



That's what I believe, yeah.


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post May 14 2010, 11:24 PM
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I have the chart for Totem time crafting in my nmail box. It improves your success rate, and I think your successes give you more crafting xp. That's how it seems to work, anyway.

It's more noticeable at lower crafting levels than the higher ones.


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post May 15 2010, 06:55 PM
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Crafting during totem time is always better no matter what level you are; novice to legendary. It's the success that adds to your skills not just that you are crafting! You will succeed more during totem time so it's a no brainer. If you don't mind the failure rate then craft outside of totem time.


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post May 16 2010, 09:22 PM
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I recorded tens of thousands of individual crafting results in the past, including at the time when you were notified every single time that your skill went up. (Instead of the way it is now, where the notification randomly appears about 10 percent of the time that your skill goes up)

Crafting at totem times did seem to increase the number of skill-up notifications.

But using good table combinations at off-totem times can be more profitable. When using the correct table options in gemming, you might tarnish more, succeed less, but you'll get more well crafted. (Of course, this also depends a lot on your skill levels, since there are points in some crafts where you can never tarnish when using the right materials)

However, in skills like weaving and smelting, where Fine cloth/metal isn't all that much better than regular, this isn't as big of a deal.

The one thing I never got around to testing as much as I wanted was when a player followed the wrong totem. Like, if a poet follows Chung ryong, would they craft better at HM time or CR time?

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I think your successes give you more crafting xp

Very true. Thatís why it would make sense that if you're tarnishing/WC more but succeeding less, you might earn more money but skill up less.


However, when it comes to making rare items (Polearms, Magic net, or in your case a Diadem) I think itís best to try during your totem time. These items were added after the initial crafting system was created, and I think the people adding them would have made them succeed more often at totem times, if any time at all.


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post May 24 2010, 11:16 PM
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Actually I was more interested in really getting a better understanding of totem time more for the basic rings.... Legendary jeweler is the goal, it is the priority.

A diadem is like winning the lottery =P Something that I will see as a miracle, and a bonus....

But yeah... I'm just trying to figure out what's best for this last rank of tedious mind-numbing insanity.... =p
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post May 25 2010, 11:17 AM
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With the numbers you're dealing with, I think it's best to just get it done. Crafting 45 minutes, then waiting 2 hours and 15 minutes just doesn't work if you want to finish any time soon. Switch up the options to figure out what works best, since every craft seems a little different and yours is the one we know the least about.


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post May 27 2010, 02:29 PM
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Way back in the dim history of 3.0 Starbrite made a list of all totem times and which options were best for each of the totem paths that a player has. The only copy I kept was baekho since that is the crafter that I was most interested in developing. Unfortunately I can't find a copy of that original list anywhere. It was long before I was part of Nexus Atlas staff. I've tried to recompile what I had and it's on Nexfiles now but it's not entirely what I had before. This is all that's left of that list.

YOU ARE Baekho
TIME = Option
0 = Option 2
1 = Option 2
2 = Option 2
3 = Option 2 (could change in middle of hour)
4 = Option 4
5 = Option 4
6 = Option 4
7 = Option 4
8 = Option 4
9 = Option 4 (could change to next in middle)
10 = Option 1
11 = Option 1
12 = Option 1
13 = Option 1
14 = Option 1
15 = Option 1 (could change)
16 = Option 3
17 = Option 3
18 = Option 3
19 = Option 3
20 = Option 3
21 = Option 1 (could change)
22 = Option 1
23 = Option 1



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post May 28 2010, 06:04 PM
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Was it Starrbrite? For some reason I thought Gildenstar made the charts?

I remember I have the baekho list, because I used it all the time on my rogue.


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post May 28 2010, 06:38 PM
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I believe it was Gildenstar as well.


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post May 28 2010, 08:10 PM
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It was Gildenstar -- I have the chart in my n-mail, but I'm unregistered. Still, my chart wasn't all drawn-out by writing each hour and then writing that for each path. Instead, it just listed the different times for each totem and what option you should use at that time. Much more concise than what Ally posted.


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post May 28 2010, 10:44 PM
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Yes, it was Gildenstar.


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post May 29 2010, 12:38 AM
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post Jun 29 2010, 09:50 AM
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Crafting is such a huge bore. Highest I've ever gotten is skilled gemcutter, and I can't stand it.
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post Jun 29 2010, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Ouned @ Jun 29 2010, 07:50 AM) *
Crafting is such a huge bore. Highest I've ever gotten is skilled gemcutter, and I can't stand it.

Thanks for contributing to the Topic discussion... It's greatly appreciated. rolleyes.gif
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