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Posted by: Killeh Oct 20 2010, 02:09 AM

Hello I am Killeh smile.gif as you may or may not know, I draw portraits and I'd like to do a painting
(big enough to fit a widescreen monitor's wallpaper) of some of the community! I'd like to include
one of each subpath, including NPC subpaths, so that's 16 people (perhaps with the royals, just for
fun[THE GHOST OF KIJA PAST WOOOoooOOooOOo]).

Please vote for one-three people for each category. They do NOT have to be the current or past elders
or guides, but I'd prefer that even if they are not registered that they are still in the path. I would
ask that you choose the best representation of each path and if you can't think of that, then please
choose who you think is the most famous (good/bad/neutral) or your favorites, or just whomever you
like (even yourself!), but realize that I WILL need a screenshot of the person or a very good description
(I can also use the "internet archive" if I have to).

EDIT: If you don't want other people to see your vote, you my PM or Nmail me your votes <3
EDIT 2: Please only choose people for the following Subpaths as the rest have been decided upon
and I am happy with the vote numbers on the chosen people. As much as I'd like to, I can
not please everyone, so I'm sorry if you super-disagree with the chosen people. If you
can rally enough people to change a subpath's representative, then go for it, but I will NOT
change Muse or Geomancer.


Thank you! biggrin.gif

~* Killeh
General of Buya
`Oracle of Dice

You may choose someone not on the following list for the three Subpaths, but I am not interested in other Subpaths at the moment.
---------------------------------------------------

Chung Ryong:
Calmwind, SourApple, YangZ,
BWENARU, KaNaK, SparkyD

Hyun Moo:
spinkns, Negai, Gemballa,
Zippey, Healingbabe, HealPLZ,
TwistedTCK, Valandil, Tzara

Baekho:
SinJackal, Maki, BornToRide, Calavoz,
Triplekia, SxyMail, Castleberry, ShinI,
dj, XMorphX,

Posted by: Hatiki Oct 20 2010, 03:55 AM

So for my vote, I wrote down more than one name. Also some of the people in my vote are no longer around, but I felt they represented their path well.

Warrior Subpaths

Barbarian: xItachix

Chung Ryong: No idea dont care

Do: Charmie

Chongun: SilentS, Guldar, Masra


Poet Subpaths

Druid: Supply, Foxfire

Hyun Moo: Dont care

Monk: Berig

Muse: Lokira, Kiyone, Skademon


Mage Subpaths

Diviner: Sarina or Gull

Geomancer: Thebestmage or Quellious

Jujak: Dont care

Shaman: Widget, Crovax, Hooje, Humma, Izabella, Wasse


Rogue Subpaths

Baekho: Dont care

Merchant: everclear, Living, Paladino

Ranger: Valdessi

Spy: Hobart, SpyvSpy, Rhetoric, Reiko, Thou, Yoshiku

Posted by: Killeh Oct 20 2010, 10:35 AM

Thanks, Hatiki <3 I should say that I'm not sure I'm going to o the NPC subpaths because it's too difficult to really pick one :S

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 20 2010, 01:07 PM

Barbarian: LocoSam, Winder, MPython, Hance, Thog
Do: Keely
Chongun: Madog, Taijin, Liadriel, Calmwind (though he might be a great C.Ryong pick)
Diviner: Sarina
Druid: Supply, Xenic
Geomancer: Leodaris
Merchant: Ilios, Paladino, Everclear
Monk: Janken
Muse: Lokira, Lloexis, Genji
Ranger: Valdessi, Darken (Should be Citian)
Spy: Chongun, SpyvsSpy, Arkanis (you can use his new char)
Shaman: Wildhair (lol. I picked her just because you'd have to draw fat lol)


I just thought these people represent their paths the best and are the most noteable. I know I am going to get some flack for some of them but I think people like Ilios, Janken (I didn't even put Berig), and Sarina perfectly represented the ideology of their paths in the hayday and are by far the most noteable. For paths with multi-entrees I focused on the most famous or the people (like in Hance' case) that represent some idea or principle of the path in everything they do.

Posted by: Adam Oct 20 2010, 02:13 PM

QUOTE (Killeh @ Oct 20 2010, 09:35 AM) *
I should say that I'm not sure I'm going to o the NPC subpaths because it's too difficult to really pick one :S

Easy NPC Warrior pick: KaNaK.

I've never been in any PC paths and, at the risk of not only sounding conceited, but more importantly, sounding solman-ish, I'm the most skilled Warrior to ever play the game.

...Though you can't exactly tell right now because of my 15kbps cell phone GPRS 'kanaktion' (shout out to my nikka, Sweeney!). laugh.gif

Not to mention, my pixels are deadly sexy. sleep.gif

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 20 2010, 02:44 PM

No offense to Kanak, because I think you do have a point (same with DaKowe or whatever that dudes name is, DarkMaverick etc) but depending on how you'd classify Calmwind, I think he might be the defacto choice. I know he was a Chongun, but for most people during the "prime" of Nexus he was probably the most famous Nexus person of all and during much of this stage was a Chung Ryong.

Posted by: Skum Oct 20 2010, 03:47 PM

Muse: Lokira

Posted by: Corath Oct 20 2010, 04:50 PM

QUOTE (Skum @ Oct 20 2010, 02:47 PM) *
Muse: Lokira

I can't agree more. She was my guide when I had my Muse, and was by far the absolute best ever.

It's been a while for me, but I can remember these...

Diviner: xKianax, Kielara, Airess, Elyra, Laren, Zario
Geomancer: Runai
Shaman: Crovax, SilentJoe, Yeas, ColbyCC
Barbarian: Wimp, ChronicKilla
Do: Yari
Chongun: SilentS, Guldar
Merchant: everclear, Baltzen
Monk: Berig, Janken

Posted by: Killeh Oct 20 2010, 05:45 PM

thanks everyone so far! I've also already chosen Lokira and Leodaris for Muse and Geomancer, so you don't have to bother voting there anymore. Still gonna take a few more and then I'll see which has the most. Mostly, I'm trying to get up to 5 votes on each winner

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 20 2010, 05:48 PM

make sure to make an easter egg with like the shadow of citian or something in place of the shadow for whichever Ranger you choose,

Posted by: Winder Oct 20 2010, 06:01 PM

QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 20 2010, 02:07 PM) *
Barbarian: LocoSam, Winder, MPython, Hance, Thog
Do: Keely
Chongun: Madog, Taijin, Liadriel, Calmwind (though he might be a great C.Ryong pick)
Diviner: Sarina
Druid: Supply, Xenic
Geomancer: Leodaris
Merchant: Ilios, Paladino, Everclear
Monk: Janken
Muse: Lokira, Lloexis, Genji
Ranger: Valdessi, Darken (Should be Citian)
Spy: Chongun, SpyvsSpy, Arkanis (you can use his new char)
Shaman: Wildhair (lol. I picked her just because you'd have to draw fat lol)


I just thought these people represent their paths the best and are the most noteable. I know I am going to get some flack for some of them but I think people like Ilios, Janken (I didn't even put Berig), and Sarina perfectly represented the ideology of their paths in the hayday and are by far the most noteable. For paths with multi-entrees I focused on the most famous or the people (like in Hance' case) that represent some idea or principle of the path in everything they do.


I can already sense YanDaMan's snide remarks smile.gif, perhaps I should make a Diviner tongue.gif

However, Killeh thought I represented the Barbarians so well that she drew me as soon as she saw your vote! It's your lucky day:


(I tried to avoid using any current elders, but I like Soleil too much to leave her off tongue.gif)

Barbarian: SilentNights with a Brew, LocoSam
Do: Rallos, Keely
Chongun: SilentS, DarkMaverick, GildenStar (not separately, all three as ONE picture)

Geomancer: Leodaris, Khyree
Diviner: Sarina, Mizu
Shaman: BeffyCabeza (with me), JaydePhoenix, Wildhair, Worldwalker

Ranger: Valdessi, RiaDora
Spy: Phalance, Chongun, Interstate
Merchant: Living, Everclear

Muse: Soleil
Monk: Janken, Berig
Druid: Shyloh

Posted by: Adam Oct 20 2010, 06:23 PM

QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 20 2010, 02:44 PM) *
No offense to Kanak, because I think you do have a point (same with DaKowe or whatever that dudes name is, DarkMaverick etc) but depending on how you'd classify Calmwind, I think he might be the defacto choice. I know he was a Chongun, but for most people during the "prime" of Nexus he was probably the most famous Nexus person of all and during much of this stage was a Chung Ryong.

I understand where you're coming from, but I have to say I disagree, and it's not due to the obvious reason of you not picking me (HOW COULD YOU NOT PICK ME!? mad.gif [/sarcasm]).

For one, I personally think Nexus' "prime" occured a little later than you believe; Calmwind being there for part of it. In my opinion, that era began when Calmwind was already well established as the strongest player in the game, and all that was really seen of him were small glimpses and all that was really heard about him were the trivia-type statements of fact regarding his rank on the Power list. I've played since right after beta, and maybe it was due to my being young at the time, but I enjoyed it more later on and viewed Nexus at its best when PK was at an all-time high, before players got so dispersed in stats, and before the invasion merger of the Indonesian player-base from Nexia. Nonetheless, when Nexus' golden era occured is subjective and a whole different topic unto itself.

Secondly, I'd like to point out, and I've already touched on this, that Calmwind was basically ONLY known, i.e. "the most famous Nexus person of all" for being the top-stats player. Granted, I'm not known for that much in comparison, but if just holding the title of "Nexus' Buffest Player" is the criteria we're considering for the best representation of their path, then why not tack on Shans, Roboter, Ellone, winroute, SuWaN, Chebaky, SinJackal, etc to the list. I guess you could fit it into the "roleplay" of Chung Ryong (AKA Fury/Assault/Barrage/Champion) that if you're the strongest you best represent it, but that's a long stretch to be honest.

P.S. DaKowe or DarkMaverick? They totally don't fit into the point I was making. I was highlighting the importance of finesse and talent in combat and the natural ability to kill, since that's effectively what a Chung Ryong represents; perfection in the execution of a warrior's job -- to execute. Both of the examples you gave in relation to my point did not excel in that arena, literally. Now, I realize that may not have been the original role-play ideology of the totem, but that is what Nexus's Chung Ryong's represented since day one and that is still the measure they stand against today. DaKowe and DM were, at most and I don't mean to rag on or offend them, mediocre warriors. Not only that, but DM is most notable as a Chongun and, though in recent years he was unable to do so, I believe he still represents and distinguishes with that path best. You know what they say, "You can take the kid out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the kid." I'll leave it to him to say whether or not I'm right about that though, I don't want to speak on his behalf.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 20 2010, 07:05 PM

this is not the [Content removed]ing day time emmys but lets agree to disagree.


Sidenote: DM was such a chungy ryungy that he even went so far as to make a website just for Chung Ryongs to be as cool as him.



Which reminds me, DDarkstorm could very well be my Diviner pick if not for Sarina being such an interesting character

Posted by: Killeh Oct 21 2010, 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Winder @ Oct 20 2010, 07:01 PM) *
I can already sense YanDaMan's snide remarks smile.gif, perhaps I should make a Diviner tongue.gif

However, Killeh thought I represented the Barbarians so well that she drew me as soon as she saw your vote! It's your lucky day:


(I tried to avoid using any current elders, but I like Soleil too much to leave her off tongue.gif)

Barbarian: SilentNights with a Brew, LocoSam
Do: Rallos, Keely
Chongun: SilentS, DarkMaverick, GildenStar (not separately, all three as ONE picture)

Geomancer: Leodaris, Khyree
Diviner: Sarina, Mizu
Shaman: BeffyCabeza (with me), JaydePhoenix, Wildhair, Worldwalker

Ranger: Valdessi, RiaDora
Spy: Phalance, Chongun, Interstate
Merchant: Living, Everclear

Muse: Soleil
Monk: Janken, Berig
Druid: Shyloh



Winder I drew that like 4 years ago :I

Also, I already have Muse, Monk, Diviner, Geomancer, Druid, Ranger, and Spy picked out. So vote on the rest! Tomorrow I will give you some options to vote on, and I may or may not do the NPC subpaths because it's hard to pick them

Posted by: Hatiki Oct 21 2010, 03:03 AM

When you have all the representations, please post who will represent each path smile.gif

Posted by: Yeas Oct 21 2010, 03:49 AM

Warrior Subpaths

Barbarian: jorde/Mountie (nothing was more frightening when someone called in jorde to sire)

Chung Ryong: Calmwind (sure he started out Chongun, but he was the ultimate embodiment of what Rage 6 meant)

Do: SoulHunter/Burnout (Burnout had amazing PK ability that made use of the path spells like no one else)

Chongun: Ssbulldoga/Mitchel (classic sire Chonguns)


Poet Subpaths

Druid: Never really knew any that well. Tyania maybe?

Hyun Moo: Healingbabe/HealPLZ/TwistedTCK (these were people that made an impact wherever they were)

Monk: Janken/Devion

Muse: Bronwyn (the ultimate Muse)


Mage Subpaths

Diviner: Gull (the only Diviner I even acknowledge of being worth my time and called friend)

Geomancer: MadamEdea (probably one of the most hated people at one point, gotta give it to her for standing her ground)

Jujak: Skys (Really lived up to the title Force)

Shaman: Looking at the previous lists, almost embarrassing. Wasse/LoO are the pinnacle Shamans. SilentJoe for currently active. On a side note, Shans/Melfy/Nitehawk will for simple being the most known at a point when Shamans were the strongest mages.


Rogue Subpaths

Baekho: Castleberry/ShinI/dj (Castle actually RP'd the path)

Merchant: Demolish

Ranger: Anguish/Cable

Spy: SpyvsSpy/Arkanis/Vladd/Chongun (just based on the history I had with some or fact of how legendary were the rest)

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 21 2010, 02:15 PM

damn yeas those are some great suggestions

I forgot all about ShinI, Mountie, Jorde.

I still don't get why I'm the only one giving Madog any love. The [Content removed] had one of if not the most epic parts in Nexus history ever.

Posted by: Falaris Oct 21 2010, 04:21 PM

I think I'll just do the one person for each path who I thought was the "greatest" of all time when you add up all different kinds of factors. I know some of these paths are already picked out but what the hell tongue.gif

Warrior Subpaths

Barbarian: MPython
Chung Ryong: Calmwind
Do: OblivioN
Chongun: Taijin


Poet Subpaths

Druid: Xenic
Hyun Moo: Valandil
Monk: Devion
Muse: Lokira


Mage Subpaths

Diviner: Sarina
Geomancer: Leodaris
Jujak: Nitehawk
Shaman: JaydePhoenix


Rogue Subpaths

Baekho: ShinI
Merchant: Warik
Ranger: Valdessi
Spy: Chongun


I refuse to vote for myself as the best representative of the Merchants, but I appreciate everyone who thought to put me down more than you guys know.

Posted by: Laren Oct 21 2010, 09:19 PM

Not many good ones left, but I suppose I'll weigh in... For those I didn't weigh in on, those already chosen, I'd go with what Falaris said except I'd do RiaDora for Rangers instead of Valdessi and Janken for Monk instead of Devion. In fact, I'd go with all of Falaris' choices except those two, except that many of those people don't play anymore, so it might be hard to draw them.

Warrior Subpaths

Barbarian: Winder or Wimp

Chung Ryong: Sparkyd

Do: MythicTenchi or Charmie

Chongun: SilentS


Poet Subpaths

Hyun Moo: Tzara


Mage Subpaths

Jujak: Najun or xTHUNDERx

Shaman: JaydePhoenix, Izabella or Hooje


Rogue Subpaths

Baekho: XMorphX

Merchant: Beilek or Living

Posted by: Killeh Oct 21 2010, 09:24 PM

EDIT: Please only vote for ONE of the people listed for each
category. Voting for more than one does not really help >_o
Italicized Subpaths/member are the final choices (unless another
person gets a LOT of votes for someone else)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hello! As you can see, I have chosen a few of the
subpath representatives already by amounts of votes.
If you would, please vote on who is left so I may
begin this mural soon!

~* Killeh
General of Buya
`Oracle of Dice

(( Names with a - in front of them are the final choices. All of the NPC subpath representative nominees are like, tied or close to it, so I put everyone in there. The rest had at least 4-5 votes for their subpath. ))

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Warrior:

Barbarian: Wimp, XItachiX, Winder

Chung Ryong: Calmwind, SourApple, YangZ,
BWENARU, KaNaK, SparkyD


Do: Charmie, Keely

- Chongun: SilentS


Poet:

- Druid: Healerofdoom


Hyun Moo: spinkns, Negai, Gemballa,
Zippey, Healingbabe, HealPLZ,
TwistedTCK, Valandil, Tzara

- Monk: Berig

- Muse: Lokira



Mage:

- Diviner: Sarina

- Geomancer: Leodaris


Jujak: Subchess, LotusTree, Tonberry,
MultiDragon, Xoran, Skys, Nitehawk,
Najun, xTHUNDERx,

- Shaman: Hooje


Rogue:


Baekho: SinJackal, Maki, BornToRide, Calavoz,
Triplekia, SxyMail, Castleberry, ShinI,
dj, XMorphX,

Merchant: Living, Everclear, Warik

- Ranger: Riadora

- Spy: Chongun (changed after getting a lot of votes after the fact)

Posted by: Iter Oct 22 2010, 12:51 AM

What about Ixeuss for warrior?CR?

Rando for Hyun Moo?

I'll throw my vote in for LocoSam for Barbarian.

Why not Shadow? You didn't ask but I'll throw out some of the ones that chilled my blood the most when I was a kid: dementia, Blooduster, StarLyte, IamTaquito, pul. Sorry can't go shorter than that, and I'm already leaving off a lot of folks that were the epitome to me. Gosh, I'm overcome with a debilitating current of nostalgia.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 22 2010, 02:17 AM

No offense to any of these people but in my opinion at least I think there are better choices, for Spy, Ranger, Shaman, Chongun, Druid (like who the hell is HealerofDoom?) maybe it's just me but I don't think of these people when I think of these paths.

Spy should be like Chongun, Ranger should be Valdessi, Shaman could be a number of people like Wasse, WildHair, WorldWalker, Shans-- Chongun should be Madog, Druid there are a lot of good choices.

I have to say though, I love the idea about Leodaris and the butterfly, I can't wait to see that portion of the drawing, and honestly whoever you pick I can't wait to see it. I like your drawing style and always applaud when people do things creative. smile.gif

Posted by: Warik Oct 22 2010, 03:42 AM

Debello isn't a barbarian.
Hell, he isn't even a warrior... He's a Rogue!

lol... =p

Posted by: SilentS Oct 22 2010, 06:56 AM

This is suppose to be for the best "representation" of a path. Not personal favorites. There are names in here who have been kicked/chased from their paths, or even banned from the game for whatever reason. Being labelled as among the worst that path has ever had by some of those within their respected paths. There are even a few names who were only around in the very beginning, never to be seen again (over a decade ago). They are only ever mentioned for the most part in history notes, with many going "who?" when those names are mentioned.

rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Falaris Oct 22 2010, 11:07 AM

QUOTE (SilentS @ Oct 22 2010, 06:56 AM) *
This is suppose to be for the best "representation" of a path. Not personal favorites. There are names in here who have been kicked/chased from their paths, or even banned from the game for whatever reason. Being labelled as among the worst that path has ever had by some of those within their respected paths. There are even a few names who were only around in the very beginning, never to be seen again (over a decade ago). They are only ever mentioned for the most part in history notes, with many going "who?" when those names are mentioned.

rolleyes.gif


This is entirely subjective. Over the course of a decade, things happen, people change, paths change, etc. On top of that, more often than not most people won't or don't know about some of the underhanded things that a bunch of people who have been voted for have done. And then even beyond that, some people might know those things, but think it is appropriate based on their path.

For example, Ilios might be one of the best representations of the Merchant Guild. Had it not been for him trying to sell path money on the black market, I might have even voted for him over Warik. And this is a guy who I had more than my fair share of fights with. At the end of the day though when I consider what an ideal Merchant 'should' be - powerful in the community, rich, willing to cut deals to buy support from people, something like a mob boss - then Ilios fits that description pretty well.

If I was judging 'Best Merchant' based on what I thought a Merchant was in the 30s, I could have gone with a bunch of other names like Fice, Paladino, etc. who at their height really embodied the "happy, friendly community helper" type Merchant. 10 years later, I have such a different view of what I think Merchants should be that I'm not even in the path any longer.

I have first- and second-hand experience and knowledge of corruption from a bunch of people on that list, both in Merchants and not. But in regards to Merchants specifically, I think a little corruption and self-interest is part of what makes people great Merchants. So like I said, I might vote for Ilios based on that alone had I not felt that he betrayed the path at the end. On the other hand, someone else might still see Merchants as the cheery, happy people they keep trying to portray themselves as, so what makes a good Merchant for them can be totally different.

Last thing I wanted to touch on was length of playing. If someone fully embodied the spirit of their path, then what difference does it make if they only played 1 year instead of 5 or more? Just because a lot of current players might not know them, doesn't mean they weren't awesome at the time. I'd list Khamael after JaydePhoenix long before I put Wasse, Wildhair, or Worldwalker down, even though the latter 3 are much more popular and played much longer than Khamael ever did even if most current players have no idea who he is.

And really, who cares? This isn't an official ranking of the best member of each subpath ever, and the results are going to be skewed because these boards have a microcosm of Nexus players ranging from all different time periods. I can't see myself getting offended that Devion wasn't picked for monks even though I think he was far superior to Janken and Berig. As time goes on, people fade out of memory.

Edit: P.S.- I think I'd have to go with Citian, dementia or Blooduster for Shadows. I know he disbanded the path and all, but prior to that when he actually cared about playing the game, I think Citian might have been the best at just 'being' a Shadow.

Posted by: Kiel Oct 22 2010, 12:07 PM

Spy: Conro

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 22 2010, 01:47 PM

I agree with Falaris but I'd even go as far as saying, that corruption and greed that Ilios displayed is the best/truest representation of that path and sort of the pitfals of a path that's so strongly entrenched in the market and money. Paths have ideals, and there is that following at face value, but behind the scenes a whole different belief system is held. It's the same with the majority of paths and people, because this is a game.

I'd also like to say that the people villafied later or earliar in their tenures are by far the most interesting, Taijin, Liad, Hooje, Citian to name a few all represented their paths well at one point in time and followed their path ideals to a T, but then they did something radical that creates debate. I think the longer these things settle in peoples minds, the more these people look like trailblazers and great representations of their path for their strength as individuals in doing the things that they did. The difference between these people and others, is they let that behind the scenes side rise to the surface while others keep it hidden, for example, as Ilios has said, there were many people involved in his process, and not just merchants...

Posted by: Hobart Oct 22 2010, 02:16 PM

I think Chongun should be the Spy representative. He has an amazing historical foundation and has a widespread underground cult following.

That and drawing me with a Green waistcoat and a bandanna seems boring compared to what you could create with Chongun. I am honored to be a part of your project, but Chongun is the better selection in this scenario.

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 22 2010, 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Adam @ Oct 20 2010, 06:23 PM) *
DaKowe and DM were, at most and I don't mean to rag on or offend them, mediocre warriors. Not only that, but DM is most notable as a Chongun and, though in recent years he was unable to do so, I believe he still represents and distinguishes with that path best. You know what they say, "You can take the kid out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the kid." I'll leave it to him to say whether or not I'm right about that though, I don't want to speak on his behalf.


QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 20 2010, 07:05 PM) *
Sidenote: DM was such a chungy ryungy that he even went so far as to make a website just for Chung Ryongs to be as cool as him.


QUOTE (Winder @ Oct 20 2010, 06:01 PM) *
Chongun: SilentS, DarkMaverick, GildenStar (not separately, all three as ONE picture)


...it's probably for the best if I don't comment on any of this, lol

My picks (trying to abide by the whole, 'remained in the path thing'):

Chung Ryong: LrdDrkMoon
Chongun: Vini
Do: Masana
Barbarian: MPython

Ju Jak: SueW
Shaman: JaydePhoenix / Crovax
Diviner: Gull
Geomancer: Leodaris

Hyun Moo: Chica
Monk: Greta or Janken
Muse: Lokira
Druid: Xenic (there basically was no Druid RP until Xenic came around)

Baekho: ShinI
Merchant: Paladino
Spy: Hobart or Chongun
Shadow: LogicalPO
Ranger: Spectrumboy

QUOTE (Adam @ Oct 20 2010, 06:23 PM) *
Secondly, I'd like to point out, and I've already touched on this, that Calmwind was basically ONLY known, i.e. "the most famous Nexus person of all" for being the top-stats player. Granted, I'm not known for that much in comparison, but if just holding the title of "Nexus' Buffest Player" is the criteria we're considering for the best representation of their path, then why not tack on Shans, Roboter, Ellone, winroute, SuWaN, Chebaky, SinJackal, etc to the list. I guess you could fit it into the "roleplay" of Chung Ryong (AKA Fury/Assault/Barrage/Champion) that if you're the strongest you best represent it, but that's a long stretch to be honest.


I will point out that CalmWind is different than all other "buffest players" because he gained his stats as a Chongun (the weakest warrior subpath back then) before split cave entrances were removed, and he was over 1million vita and 500k mana when most players were barely 100k total in any stats, and the next strongest character was SueW, Nitehawk or LadySatin, and neither were even Sam san stats. Mountie was the second strongest Warrior and I think he only had a little over 400k vita when CW hit 1mil. I could be a little off, I just remember that CW had a huge stat leap over everyone else. I believe CW was also the first to make Master Smith.

As for whether CW should be considered a Chongun or not...it's true he left, but he left after the scandal that shall not be named where a lot of people left. He didn't need R6. He could already 1hit just about everything in the game. I vaguely recall talking to him about re-joining Chonguns but he felt the path a lost cause. All things considered, he probably made a smarter decision than me.

QUOTE (SilentS @ Oct 22 2010, 06:56 AM) *
This is suppose to be for the best "representation" of a path. Not personal favorites. There are names in here who have been kicked/chased from their paths, or even banned from the game for whatever reason. Being labelled as among the worst that path has ever had by some of those within their respected paths. There are even a few names who were only around in the very beginning, never to be seen again (over a decade ago). They are only ever mentioned for the most part in history notes, with many going "who?" when those names are mentioned.

rolleyes.gif


Well if you ask me, I wish some of these paths would have went into the same direction those so-called "worst members" went. And no, I'm not just talking about Chonguns. Sure, I don't agree with all the nominations either (there are several I'd like to passionately argue against), but I realize people's mileage may vary so I'll refrain from expanding on that.

I do think voting should go for a little more than a day since people don't exactly check this stuff often. Also, NF probably aren't the best place to only count votes from.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 22 2010, 04:46 PM

Truthfully DM, I'm curious, because I could see you saying either side. Which path did you better represent? I know you formulated a lot of the main "knightly" ideals that for the longest time were part of the Chongun roleplay, and contributed a lot to the path but I think as sort of a "betrayed/outcast" you fit the Chung Ryong bill perfectly and carried that NPC path for a while-- like I said before, I don't know if I could put you in the same league as CW just because of the aura he had all around Nexus (but he himself had the same predicament as you) but for me you're a contender on the Chung ryong bill and not that high in Chonguns (I seriously can't believe Madog is getting no love).


By the way, props for putting Xenic up there. I was the only other one to do so and I was beginning to think he had been forgotten.

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 22 2010, 04:54 PM

I don't believe that I represent the Chonguns as they are today. The path has gone through so many re-interpretations that if I ever did, it was only for a short window of time; probably after Icey left and before the scandal that shall not be named.

I guess I'd be more closely in touch with the C.Ryong side of things. I had a whole rp spiel about it and I'd like to think I contributed useful things to the Warrior community in general.

Either way, I guess I'm a little touched that people I argue with all the time would even think of me as possibly representing either path. Thank you.


I much prefer what Xenic did with the Druids than what any other Druid Elder has done with them. The Druids then and the Druids now might as well be considered two different paths, and I think the game was much more interesting when the Shaman and Druids were going at it every day and dragging the community into their conflict.

MaDog, from my understanding, vanished shortly after beta ended and never returned, so it's not surprising that she isn't getting much love. Everything I know about Chongun history says that we didn't have anything really well established until Icemanabk started writing recruiting posts. I mean we had some traditions (some of which, last I knew, still exist in highly, highly altered forms) but things didn't get standardized until Gild's era as Elder, although things went through multiple revisions throughout her Eldership and continued to change until the present. I mean, Guldar is Elder now and I severely doubt anything substantial has changed since I last played, but things did alter a lot throughout the first several Elderships after Gild. Last I played I honestly felt the path was in an identity crisis because there was generations of conflicting ideas on what a Chongun should be, and a lot of it I felt drifted greatly from the direction I'd like the path to have gone in (hell, things -I- wrote for the path got interpreted in ways I never, EVER intended them to be interpreted). But it's possible that direction would never have happened simply because of the nature of subpaths. I mean, maybe if I had been Elder I could have ensured it while I was Elder, but looking at what has happened with all subpaths, it's very unlikely it would have continued when I passed the torch. That's the nature of charismatic leaderships. It's a poor model for long term group stability.

All things considered, I'd rather not be associated with a path that believes it is okay to brush undesirable things under the rug and hide the truth, or play mindgames with its members, especially former ones. Nor a path that believes it's fair to make people sacrifice their enjoyment of the game just to be part of a small community. Or is too hung up on what is supposedly "traditional" and less concerned with what is most practical and beneficial for its members.

If I'm to be associated with any subpath, I guess C. Ryong would be better since C. Ryong is in the business of giving strength to those who have been betrayed and abandoned and always welcoming when members leave or return. I'd like to think I'm the same way, since even if I really dislike someone or what they are saying, I'm at least willing to frankly talk and entertain what they are trying to say. Also, I tend to befriend a lot of people who I had once fiercely clashed with.

But it doesn't really matter since I don't play anymore tongue.gif

Posted by: Killeh Oct 22 2010, 07:34 PM

Okay you guys talked way too much. I ONLY want votes on subpaths that have NOT been picked yet. Tonberry won for JuJak with 5 votes. The people that are chosen so far won at least 5 votes and the ones that are listed to vote from (please don't add your own anymore), had like 4 or 5 but were tied and need a tie breaker. I'm not going to do Shadow because I wasn't around for Shadow and call me ignorant, or stupid, or whatever, but I don't know a thing about them, so I'm not going to draw them. So here's the ones you CAN vote on and PLEASE stick to the people listed:
---------------------------------------------------
Barbarian:
Wimp, XItachiX, LocoSam, Winder

Merchant:
Warik, Everclear, Living

Chung Ryong:
Calmwind, SourApple, YangZ,
BWENARU, KaNaK, SparkyD

Hyun Moo:
spinkns, Negai, Gemballa,
Zippey, Healingbabe, HealPLZ,
TwistedTCK, Valandil, Tzara

Baekho:
SinJackal, Maki, BornToRide, Calavoz,
Triplekia, SxyMail, Castleberry, ShinI,
dj, XMorphX,


Posted by: Laren Oct 22 2010, 07:48 PM

LocoSam, Living, CalmWind or Sparkyd, Valandil, ShinI or XMorphX.

One must also consider not only whether they're the best representative of the path, but whether they're the best visual representation. This is for drawings, mind you, not for a Hall of Fame plaque.

Posted by: SilentS Oct 22 2010, 08:22 PM

It has been a while, but it is time for old SS to reply to DM again... *waits for all the groans to stop.. a day later*


For the most part, I do agree with you. ~ALL~ paths have gone through "many re-interpretations", as you said, throughout the years. No path is exempt from that. New walkers, guides, elder, blood in general, all bring in new ideas as time goes on. For better or worse. No path is how it used to be, so picking anybody as a poster-boy for a picture to represent path should be based on how the path currently is, not whatever former glory it used to be.

If it wasn't for that, I would say you would have made a great rep for the Chongun, based on how they used to be. Despite any issues we may have had. That goes for many of the names that have been listed. With that said, with all that has been said and done with those listed people, it is how they are viewed today that I was referring to when I made my last post. As unfortunate as it is, when it comes to history, people more often remember the negative more than the positive, which overshadows most of anything they ever accomplished.


Laren, depending on the artist, anybody can be made into a good visual rep. In this case, Killeh's pictures have been great thus far, so no real need to worry on that. She even made Winder look half decent, and that is an accomplishment in itself ;p

As for Killeh's votes, my picks are:
LocoSam, Everclear, SparkyD (would have picked LrdDrkMoon personally), no vote on Hyun Moo (since I dont really seem any of them much), and Shini.

Posted by: Killeh Oct 22 2010, 08:49 PM

(Italicized ones are the ones who are representing the path. If you really don't want that person that won to represent, please say something now or forever hold your peace. Meanwhile, I'm probably going to pick the ones with the most votes for the rest)

Warrior:

- Barbarian: Winder

- Chung Ryong: SparkyD

- Do: Charmie

- Chongun: SilentS



Poet:

- Druid: Healerofdoom

Hyun Moo:
spinkns, Negai, Gemballa x2,
Zippey, Healingbabe, HealPLZ,
TwistedTCK, Valandil, Tzara

- Monk: Berig

- Muse: Lokira (make her look goddessy)


Mage:


- Diviner: Sarina

- Geomancer: Leodaris (show with tree and butterfly on shoulder)

- Jujak: Tonberry

- Shaman: Hooje


Rogue:


Baekho:
SinJackal, Maki, BornToRide, Calavoz,
Triplekia, SxyMail, Castleberry, ShinI x2,
dj, XMorphX,

- Merchant: Living

- Ranger: Riadora

- Spy: Chongun

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 22 2010, 09:28 PM

If that's the list to choose from then....

QUOTE (Killeh @ Oct 22 2010, 07:34 PM) *
---------------------------------------------------
Barbarian:
Wimp, XItachiX, LocoSam, Winder


Wimp.

QUOTE
Merchant:
Warik, Everclear, Living


Everclear.

QUOTE
Chung Ryong:
Calmwind, SourApple, YangZ,
BWENARU, KaNaK, SparkyD


CalmWind.

QUOTE
Hyun Moo:
spinkns, Negai, Gemballa,
Zippey, Healingbabe, HealPLZ,
TwistedTCK, Valandil, Tzara


Valandil.

QUOTE
Baekho:
SinJackal, Maki, BornToRide, Calavoz,
Triplekia, SxyMail, Castleberry, ShinI,
dj, XMorphX,


ShinI.

Posted by: Adam Oct 22 2010, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (Killeh @ Oct 22 2010, 08:49 PM) *
(Italicized ones are the ones who are representing the path. If you really don't want that person that won to represent, please say something now or forever hold your peace. Meanwhile, I'm probably going to pick the ones with the most votes for the rest)

Warrior:
- Chung Ryong: SparkyD

I think that Ixeus (or Yttrbium, as he's currently known), out of all possible candidates, should represent the Chung Ryong NPC path.

SparkyD doesn't really represent the path itself, he's just an old and notable player and would probably be viewed and act the same regardless of his path. It just so happens that he is C. Ryong. I wouldn't say he really plays the part of someone infused with the power of a warrior dragon totem's spirit. Ixeus, however, is as close to ideal as you can get. Granted, he wasn't particularly skilled at PK, but he more than makes up for it with the knowledge that he puts into what it takes to maximize efficiecy, which is something that I believe a C. Ryong would value highly -- what it takes to kill something and how best to do it.

Ergo, I move to replace SparkyD with Yttrbium (or however you spell it).

Posted by: Killeh Oct 22 2010, 09:38 PM

You guys have to remember I need to be able to get a good screenshot of the person. If they don't play anymore, it makes it really hard to get one. Sometimes I just snap photos of people if I like their outfits, but meh. The people I have posted are people that had the highest votes (I had quite a few nmail votes too) and most also had my vote as well. I'm willing to replace SparkyD if you like, but you need to supply me a screenshot of Ytterbium

Posted by: Laren Oct 22 2010, 10:06 PM

You can see Ixeus at http://www.winterhome.net/ixeus/index.htm. He's the one making all of the attacks in the screenshots. Someone might have a more recent one of Ix or Yttr.

Posted by: Kensi Oct 23 2010, 09:42 AM

Here's my love:

Do: Monchichi, BeautyBeast
Merchant: LeAnnder, Miroshi
Muse: ChangMin
Chongun: Tadachi, BooMeR
Monk: Greta, LiShen
Geomancer: Quellious
Spy: Rubicant, Eibach
Druid: Xenic
Diviner: Muckish

NPC'ers: ...They all look the same to me. tongue.gif
Just kidding, I really, really liked STOMP (Baekho).

All of these folks, and many, many, many more that didn't immediately recall themselves on this list have parts of myself that belong to them, for sure. They are what made TK for me; two or three on this list are some of my favorite people on the planet, and I've (likely) never met them before.

Posted by: Musoyan Oct 23 2010, 11:12 AM

Do: Kensi
Merchant: Brant
Muse: Soleil
Chongun: BooMeR
Monk: Janken
Geomancer: Arthias
Spy: Conro
Druid: can't think of any
Diviner: ColdPrincess

I picked people based on who I felt best represented the path either from their history, roleplay or their activeness in the kingdoms. I think its pointless some people are just picking the people who were elders..

Posted by: Killeh Oct 23 2010, 12:13 PM

Okay I'm going to edit my original post to have the CURRENT votes.

I am not changing Muse or Geomancer but if more than 3 people agree on a different person for any -other- subpath, I will consider it; but right now, I'd like to keep what I have because I've already been getting screenshots of people

Posted by: SilentS Oct 23 2010, 12:26 PM

While it is nice of you to ask us of our votes, in the end it is you who is deciding on, and drawing, the portrait. So It shouldn't matter what people here argue on because everybody will have their preferred picks, as well as their hated ones no matter what you do. You will never get an everybody to agree, so go with who you believe fits the roles and/or whatever vote tallies you already have overall. DramaTK will always have its issues on almost everybody.

Posted by: Killeh Oct 23 2010, 12:34 PM

QUOTE (SilentS @ Oct 23 2010, 01:26 PM) *
While it is nice of you to ask us of our votes, in the end it is you who is deciding on, and drawing, the portrait. So It shouldn't matter what people here argue on because everybody will have their preferred picks, as well as their hated ones no matter what you do. You will never get an everybody to agree, so go with who you believe fits the roles and/or whatever vote tallies you already have overall. DramaTK will always have its issues on almost everybody.


Thank you ;u;

And I do thank everyone who helped me decide who to pick. I mean, I've only ever had my Diviner, Killeh, and I don't know much about the other subpaths but I did learn a bit by asking people smile.gif So it was fun. The "Mural" will probably take a few days once I finally get everyone on the list's picture. If I can't get their picture I'll choose someone I know I can get a picture of.

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 23 2010, 01:47 PM

If I remember correctly CalmWind had the same hair as the warrior in the first pic (in brown with the CR Scale and Ee san shield) and I think when hair dye was added he turned it blonde.


Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 23 2010, 02:48 PM

he also was notorious for just wearing a spring mantlein non-hunts.

Posted by: Sarphendon Oct 24 2010, 02:24 PM

Barbarian: Suwan
Do: Prowess
Chongun: DarkMaverick...ahaha no i kid. its SilentS

Merchant: Illios
Spy: SpyVsSpy
Ranger: no clue

Muse: no clue
Druid: LunaStarling
Monk: Berig

Diviner: MooCowing or w/e his name was
Geomancer: no clue
Shaman: no idea

Some paths I cant even attempt to make an educated guess on so I wont! and I really dont think NPC paths HAVE values to go by but if they did...

Baekho: SinJackal, He was the most useless rogue in the game
Chung Ryong: Robotor, if ever there was a man who did nothing but hunt, it was the man with 3.3m vita in yuri 67
JuJak: none that stand out
Hyun Moo: none that stand out

really I think this is the best idea of a poll ever...haha win

Posted by: Killeh Oct 24 2010, 04:55 PM

QUOTE (Sarphendon @ Oct 24 2010, 03:24 PM) *
Barbarian: Suwan
Do: Prowess
Chongun: DarkMaverick...ahaha no i kid. its SilentS

Merchant: Illios
Spy: SpyVsSpy
Ranger: no clue

Muse: no clue
Druid: LunaStarling
Monk: Berig

Diviner: MooCowing or w/e his name was
Geomancer: no clue
Shaman: no idea

Some paths I cant even attempt to make an educated guess on so I wont! and I really dont think NPC paths HAVE values to go by but if they did...

Baekho: SinJackal, He was the most useless rogue in the game
Chung Ryong: Robotor, if ever there was a man who did nothing but hunt, it was the man with 3.3m vita in yuri 67
JuJak: none that stand out
Hyun Moo: none that stand out

really I think this is the best idea of a poll ever...haha win


If you read the thing, I only need HM and Baekho. Also, MooCowing was a merchant, not a diviner?

Posted by: Foxfire Oct 24 2010, 05:52 PM

HopelessCow? unsure.gif

Posted by: Killeh Oct 24 2010, 07:36 PM

QUOTE (Foxfire @ Oct 24 2010, 06:52 PM) *
HopelessCow? unsure.gif


em.. I know the name but not the subpath..

Posted by: Sarphendon Oct 24 2010, 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Foxfire @ Oct 24 2010, 07:52 PM) *
HopelessCow? unsure.gif


yes thats the one! yea he was a diviner

Posted by: Foxfire Oct 24 2010, 09:45 PM

I think he's a geomancer now, if I'm not mistaken..

Posted by: Laren Oct 24 2010, 11:32 PM

HopelessCow was a Diviner, but he did some bad things and had to leave, so I'd say he's not a very good representative of the path.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 25 2010, 01:41 AM

After this new piece of information, I would like to second the motion for Hopelesscow.

Posted by: Killeh Oct 25 2010, 10:21 AM

Can you guys please just vote on HM and Baekho? Otherwise I'm not going to include the NPC subpaths

Posted by: Corath Oct 25 2010, 10:36 AM

Valandil and ShinI.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 25 2010, 03:34 PM

Hyun Moo: Solman

Posted by: Falaris Oct 25 2010, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Corath @ Oct 25 2010, 10:36 AM) *
Valandil and ShinI.


This.

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 25 2010, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (Killeh @ Oct 25 2010, 10:21 AM) *
Can you guys please just vote on HM and Baekho? Otherwise I'm not going to include the NPC subpaths


Heresy!

You would decline to represent the avatars of the gods who protect your world?! Bad!

Repent now and donate a gold acorn.

Posted by: Yeas Oct 25 2010, 11:24 PM

ShinI and Val

Posted by: SilentS Oct 26 2010, 10:24 AM

Maybe once this is all said and done, based on some of the names mentioned, a portrait of a rep of the most infamous people from each path could be considered. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Hatiki Oct 26 2010, 12:57 PM

No offense to Ria, I like her and all, but I think Valdessi is a much better representation of the Rangers. Anyone else want to agree with me on this?? tongue.gif

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 26 2010, 01:42 PM

no kidding man, could say the same for a lot of people but this isn't the 61st annual golden globes, it's to help decide who this person is going to draw so really who gives a [Content removed]?

Posted by: Falaris Oct 26 2010, 02:01 PM

I don't think any of us would ever agree on all this anyway. There are lots of people chosen that I don't particularly agree with, but I'm not going to say anything about it since I don't really have any good reasons as to why my choices trump the majority votes.

Well, in some cases I do, but I can't talk about some of those things without breaking promises I made to keep them secret.

Posted by: solman Oct 26 2010, 06:12 PM

"enough said" lol

QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 25 2010, 03:34 PM) *
Hyun Moo: Solman

Posted by: Killeh Oct 27 2010, 12:38 AM

The final list. If you REALLY want to change something, you have a few days and you need to prove your point.

Warrior:

- Barbarian: Winder

- Chung Ryong: SparkyD

- Do: Charmie

- Chongun: SilentS


Poet:

- Druid: Healerofdoom

- Hyun Moo: Valandil

- Monk: Berig

- Muse: Lokira (make her look goddessy)


Mage:

- Diviner: Sarina

- Geomancer: Leodaris (show with tree and butterfly on shoulder)

- Jujak: Tonberry

- Shaman: Hooje


Rogue:

- Baekho: ShinI

- Merchant: Living

- Ranger: Riadora

- Spy: Chongun

Posted by: Doctor Oct 27 2010, 01:23 AM

Winder doesn't embody anything about barbs really, a 'darn' the law pillage the cities culture can't be represented by what Winder was in actuality. Those who know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about.

SparkyD? CR should be about the power hunting path embodiment, not some boring guy who's been a CR for a long time. Ixeus/Yttribium or Calmwind or Roboter would all be better choices by far, he's nothing to immortalize.

Healerofdoom? Who the hell is that? Above Supply? That's just laughable.

There are a lot more influential and long lasted shamans that Hooje. Come on now.

Living... has left the path, gone to spy, had drama with spy, had to leave spy, gone back to merchant, done the whole thing again... and had 0 cultural or roleplaying impact on that path. everclear, ilios, paladino, all better choices by far.

I might go with Valdessi above Riadora as well but that isn't as blasphemous as those other choices. Good god.

I feel like a total nerd even commenting on this but, these were bad lol.

Posted by: Adam Oct 27 2010, 01:50 AM

QUOTE (Doctor @ Oct 27 2010, 12:23 AM) *
Winder doesn't embody anything about barbs really, a 'darn' the law pillage the cities culture can't be represented by what Winder was in actuality. Those who know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about.
I kind of have to agree with this. Winder was like the Barbarian of love -- he'd joke a lot and constantly flirt with chicks (mostly townies) ALL the time.

QUOTE (Doctor @ Oct 27 2010, 12:23 AM) *
SparkyD? CR should be about the power hunting path embodiment, not some boring guy who's been a CR for a long time. Ixeus/Yttribium or Calmwind or Roboter would all be better choices by far, he's nothing to immortalize.
Mhm. That's exactly what he is: someone who's been CR for a long time. In terms of Calmwind, though, I'm skeptical that he even got all of his stats legitimately.
I still think Yttribium is the optimal choice.

QUOTE (Doctor @ Oct 27 2010, 12:23 AM) *
I might go with Valdessi above Riadora as well but that isn't as blasphemous as those other choices. Good god.
RiaDora doesn't seem like a bad choice. I'm sure there are better candidates but, even so, I'd say Ria's in good shape.

Posted by: Yeas Oct 27 2010, 03:15 AM

Aside from still playing, I don't even see how Hooje is on that list. Shamans like Wildhair, Wasse, Worldtalker, Khamael, Crovax, Aysh, Loo, WarX or GridViper were much well known for a longer period of time and contributed much more.

Then again, maybe Hooje is a personal friend of yours and it is your list after all.

Posted by: Winder Oct 27 2010, 07:21 AM

QUOTE (Doctor @ Oct 27 2010, 02:23 AM) *
Winder doesn't embody anything about barbs really, a 'darn' the law pillage the cities culture can't be represented by what Winder was in actuality. Those who know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about.


Judging from your comments you don't really understand what a barbarian is or what traits we are supposed to embody. Barbarians are not vikings... you've seen too many capital one commercials. Only a couple elders even seriously entertained the idea of "pillaging". Then again, if that's your thing...

The "darn the law" part is just made up smile.gif. It was in actuality much closer to the opposite. There is plenty of disgust for the royals and their "limitless" powers of authority, but Barbarians can come to their own conclusions about the laws separately.

QUOTE (Adam @ Oct 27 2010, 02:50 AM) *
I kind of have to agree with this. Winder was like the Barbarian of love -- he'd joke a lot and constantly flirt with chicks (mostly townies) ALL the time.


I'll admit to the joking around and the flirting, but neither of these (to me) "make" or "break" a barbarian. Other barbarians, even guides and elders, have done both extensively (where do you think I picked it up from!)


In the end, it all depends on what style you like. Phalance was my first pick for Spy because I liked his style more than any other Spy (even Chongun).

Posted by: Pitseleh Oct 27 2010, 11:59 AM

Winder is just a poet pusher. tongue.gif

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 27 2010, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (Adam @ Oct 27 2010, 01:50 AM) *
In terms of Calmwind, though, I'm skeptical that he even got all of his stats legitimately.


CW got his stats legitimately. It's not hard to understand; most players didn't power hunt back then, and of those who did, a lot of them spent half their gameplay time hanging out in Vale or chatting back and forth via Sage (aethers were WAY lower back then).

CW didn't hang out in PVP areas. CW didn't Sage chat. He would log in the morning, get a train of poets, and then hunt for a couple hours. Then he'd go to class and as soon as he got home in the afternoon, he'd power hunt until late at night. If a carnage happened he'd go to a carnage, or a Chongun event, but that was about it.

You'd be surprised how much stronger many players would be if they spent more game time hunting than hanging out in pvp areas.

Posted by: Killeh Oct 27 2010, 03:36 PM

QUOTE (Doctor @ Oct 27 2010, 02:23 AM) *
Winder doesn't embody anything about barbs really, a 'darn' the law pillage the cities culture can't be represented by what Winder was in actuality. Those who know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about.

SparkyD? CR should be about the power hunting path embodiment, not some boring guy who's been a CR for a long time. Ixeus/Yttribium or Calmwind or Roboter would all be better choices by far, he's nothing to immortalize.

Healerofdoom? Who the hell is that? Above Supply? That's just laughable.

There are a lot more influential and long lasted shamans that Hooje. Come on now.

Living... has left the path, gone to spy, had drama with spy, had to leave spy, gone back to merchant, done the whole thing again... and had 0 cultural or roleplaying impact on that path. everclear, ilios, paladino, all better choices by far.

I might go with Valdessi above Riadora as well but that isn't as blasphemous as those other choices. Good god.

I feel like a total nerd even commenting on this but, these were bad lol.


Everyone you complained about got over 7 votes and most got more than 4 above any other people that were voted on, so obviously people disagree with you. I am happy with the list as it is and I'm tired of changing it now. So deal wit it and enjoy the mural when it comes out.

Posted by: Musoyan Oct 27 2010, 07:45 PM

I actually agree w/ a lot of what Doctor said. tongue.gif But oh well, most people are just voting on people because they held the title of elder but not because they made an influencial difference in their path or best represented that path.

Posted by: blragh Oct 27 2010, 09:00 PM

winder? seriously? I vote for ANYONE but winder. no offense sam.

Posted by: blragh Oct 27 2010, 09:00 PM

winder? seriously? I vote for ANYONE but winder. no offense sam.

Posted by: Winder Oct 27 2010, 10:57 PM

QUOTE (blragh @ Oct 27 2010, 10:00 PM) *
winder? seriously? I vote for ANYONE but winder. no offense sam.


No offense taken. You're one of the biggest reasons I'm going to get the most votes when we eventually vote on what elder put up with the most bull[Content removed] without dismissing people smile.gif

No one else is going to stand a chance!

Posted by: Yeas Oct 27 2010, 11:17 PM

Hahahahaha!! Yeah ... but no one is asking that question are they =P

Besides, I think Barbarian and Spy automatically win the "put up with the most annoying people ever" by the simple fact they are the paths they are.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 28 2010, 01:03 AM

Sort of Off topic:

Blargh you're being harsh on Winder. He's not a bad choice, I can see how he gets in a conversation like this, and he wasn't a "bad" Elder, but Winder's in that "SilentS category". Long tenured, good people, good social stature, but uninspiring in their role. They represented their path not as the paths themselves but as public servants (for a lack of a better word). They didn't roleplay or forward that cause as much as they filled a leadership role. No offense to Winder (or to SilentS) because he's such a great person, he's the kind of guy you'd want to talk to on Nexus and enjoyed being around, but he's not what I think of when I think of Barbarian in the way someone like say Crumble was. I should note though, that the way in which he did "roleplay" (I say that loosely because I think he was like a lot of people and wasn't acting) was refreshing at the time and certainly opened up new avenues for Barbarians. But lets face it, the days of "Townie", raiding events, and throwing junk around the palace were long gone when Winder took hold. And no matter how cliche those things were, that is the; Barbarian subpath.

Posted by: Falaris Oct 28 2010, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (Musoyan @ Oct 27 2010, 07:45 PM) *
I actually agree w/ a lot of what Doctor said. tongue.gif But oh well, most people are just voting on people because they held the title of elder but not because they made an influencial difference in their path or best represented that path.


All of that.

Posted by: Winder Oct 28 2010, 04:22 PM

QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 28 2010, 02:03 AM) *
Sort of Off topic:

Blargh you're being harsh on Winder. He's not a bad choice, I can see how he gets in a conversation like this, and he wasn't a "bad" Elder, but Winder's in that "SilentS category". Long tenured, good people, good social stature, but uninspiring in their role. They represented their path not as the paths themselves but as public servants (for a lack of a better word). They didn't roleplay or forward that cause as much as they filled a leadership role. No offense to Winder (or to SilentS) because he's such a great person, he's the kind of guy you'd want to talk to on Nexus and enjoyed being around, but he's not what I think of when I think of Barbarian in the way someone like say Crumble was. I should note though, that the way in which he did "roleplay" (I say that loosely because I think he was like a lot of people and wasn't acting) was refreshing at the time and certainly opened up new avenues for Barbarians. But lets face it, the days of "Townie", raiding events, and throwing junk around the palace were long gone when Winder took hold. And no matter how cliche those things were, that is the; Barbarian subpath.


What the hell! I got Elder AND stepped down from it before SilentS. If anything, he should be in the "Winder category"! That is such bull[Content removed].

Blargh is always that way -- there's only a 50% chance he's being serious, the other 50% is that he's trying to tick me off lol. He's probably a little annoyed that I'm retired and don't have to listen to complaints anymore!

I'm probably showing my (nexus) age at this point, but the raiding thing was really only something that 2-3 elders embraced; I think it drew so much attention though that people began to define us by it, and that's a shame (or the most awesome thing ever if it happens to be the thing you want to be known for). With that said, the gods cracked down on us ridiculously hard after the things Crumble did -- to the point of mass jailings and time outs (jailing without brands). So yes, raiding events was over, but there really wasn't a choice in the matter unless we were willing to be continuously jailed tongue.gif

Posted by: SilentS Oct 28 2010, 07:19 PM

QUOTE (Winder @ Oct 28 2010, 03:22 PM) *
What the hell! I got Elder AND stepped down from it before SilentS. If anything, he should be in the "Winder category"! That is such bull[Content removed].

Would you get out of my shadow and do your own thing already!!!!

Posted by: Rachel Oct 28 2010, 07:22 PM

Is it too late for me to put in a tie breaker vote that will upset a lot of people? smile.gif

Posted by: SilentS Oct 28 2010, 08:56 PM

Probably, but do it anyways.

Posted by: Pitseleh Oct 28 2010, 11:48 PM

Winder saved my butt recently.

Posted by: Musoyan Oct 28 2010, 11:51 PM

from what? a pack of rabid squirrels?

Posted by: Pitseleh Oct 28 2010, 11:52 PM

No he was the only Barb I could get to talk to me for some kinda thing I had to do for Monks.

Posted by: TackleTK Oct 29 2010, 05:25 AM

Ya I'ma go ahead and weigh in on this, sorry Winder we are cool these days but oh well.

For winder to represent the essence of a Barbarian is super retarded. lol RP has changed so much thouhg, getting positions of power is really about who can kick it the hardest. Anyways, Winder is too much of a push over, every woman talk toer, =P rp using, suck up. keke! You're welcome. Also who ever said Suwan, is remedial. Might as well say KOfighter pfff.

MPython, Barnibus, Locosam, Glen(Philistine), SchreechPU, Consequence, Hance, Mnementh, Zarcom, Wimp, ChronicKilla, XitachiX, DaRkBrOoD, Durakone, Twiddles, Purekin, SuNkArA, and last but not least my home boy, Crumble.

These are all good choices, no winder please.
Again no offence winder, you're just not manly enough to be a good representation of the path as a whole lol

Posted by: Pitseleh Oct 29 2010, 05:46 AM

QUOTE (TackleTK @ Oct 29 2010, 06:25 AM) *
Ya I'ma go ahead and weigh in on this, sorry Winder we are cool these days but oh well.

For winder to represent the essence of a Barbarian is super retarded. lol RP has changed so much thouhg, getting positions of power is really about who can kick it the hardest. Anyways, Winder is too much of a push over, every woman talk toer, =P rp using, suck up. keke! You're welcome. Also who ever said Suwan, is remedial. Might as well say KOfighter pfff.

MPython, Barnibus, Locosam, Glen(Philistine), SchreechPU, Consequence, Hance, Mnementh, Zarcom, Wimp, ChronicKilla, XitachiX, DaRkBrOoD, Durakone, Twiddles, Purekin, SuNkArA, and last but not least my home boy, Crumble.

These are all good choices, no winder please.
Again no offence winder, you're just not manly enough to be a good representation of the path as a whole lol



Haha but that's what made it so great!

Posted by: Sarphendon Oct 29 2010, 10:13 AM

QUOTE (TackleTK @ Oct 29 2010, 07:25 AM) *
Ya I'ma go ahead and weigh in on this, sorry Winder we are cool these days but oh well.

For winder to represent the essence of a Barbarian is super retarded. lol RP has changed so much thouhg, getting positions of power is really about who can kick it the hardest. Anyways, Winder is too much of a push over, every woman talk toer, =P rp using, suck up. keke! You're welcome. Also who ever said Suwan, is remedial. Might as well say KOfighter pfff.

MPython, Barnibus, Locosam, Glen(Philistine), SchreechPU, Consequence, Hance, Mnementh, Zarcom, Wimp, ChronicKilla, XitachiX, DaRkBrOoD, Durakone, Twiddles, Purekin, SuNkArA, and last but not least my home boy, Crumble.

These are all good choices, no winder please.
Again no offence winder, you're just not manly enough to be a good representation of the path as a whole lol


I said SuWaN as a representation of what the path IS, a bunch of warriors as blunt instruments. He kept to himself and kith and kin. And when he went in Pk, he had no finese, no strategy, he went in and did what he could to kill, he thrashed about without care or cause. He was a barbarian is truest form! He was a great active member of the path in earlier days before it all went to crap.

Also as far as best path elder between SilentS and Winder...I gotta say silents, only becuase of his wild dance parties. They were glorious.

Posted by: Winder Oct 29 2010, 04:39 PM

QUOTE (TackleTK @ Oct 29 2010, 06:25 AM) *
Ya I'ma go ahead and weigh in on this, sorry Winder we are cool these days but oh well.

For winder to represent the essence of a Barbarian is super retarded. lol RP has changed so much thouhg, getting positions of power is really about who can kick it the hardest. Anyways, Winder is too much of a push over, every woman talk toer, =P rp using, suck up. keke! You're welcome. Also who ever said Suwan, is remedial. Might as well say KOfighter pfff.

MPython, Barnibus, Locosam, Glen(Philistine), SchreechPU, Consequence, Hance, Mnementh, Zarcom, Wimp, ChronicKilla, XitachiX, DaRkBrOoD, Durakone, Twiddles, Purekin, SuNkArA, and last but not least my home boy, Crumble.

These are all good choices, no winder please.
Again no offence winder, you're just not manly enough to be a good representation of the path as a whole lol


For you to be the judge of what represents the "essence" of a Barbarian is far more "super retarded". Let's be real here. Half of the people on this list are either whiny little kids, pushovers, or cared about themselves more than they ever cared about the people in the path. The fact that you'd mix names like Crumble, Zarcom, or Mnementh with MP's, CK's or LocoSam's is really an insult to some really great people.

But then again you could be right, no one knows more about being a suck up or a pushover more than you do. So I can't say you don't know what you're talking about.

No offense taken of course, I voted for LocoSam and SN over myself and I probably should have put down MP too. But I didn't base those votes off of how loud I thought someone could shout or how much bull[Content removed] they could spew.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 29 2010, 05:29 PM

I think we can all agree that the best barbarians were those who were like the hulk but dumber.

Posted by: Winder Oct 29 2010, 06:04 PM

QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 29 2010, 06:29 PM) *
I think we can all agree that the best barbarians were those who were like the hulk but dumber.


I guess I'm the only one not judging based on that... Sad.

Posted by: Doctor Oct 29 2010, 07:21 PM

Killeh I think it goes without saying that this needs to be done for elixirs.

Posted by: SilentS Oct 29 2010, 07:33 PM

Elixirs? Why use that to ruin a reason? dry.gif

Posted by: Falaris Oct 29 2010, 08:08 PM

QUOTE (Doctor @ Oct 29 2010, 07:21 PM) *
Killeh I think it goes without saying that this needs to be done for elixirs.


THIS.

Posted by: Doctor Oct 29 2010, 09:14 PM

My list as far as elixirs:

Squall. Axess. DT. PT. Stabme. Aryx. Myself. Matrixpoet. Kobebryant. Couragestar. Saera. Falaris. ALLSKILLS. Cerixis. Nihilism. Loner.

Posted by: TackleTK Oct 30 2010, 01:01 AM

lol no one knows more about being a suck up than I do? I dont believe you know who you are talking to sir.

Zarcom and Crumble are crazy as hell this is true, but they made things happen. You whine about the negative attention it got from royals/archons. Who cares that [Content removed] was fun.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 30 2010, 01:55 AM

it was even fun for people on the other side. The drama/action/conflict is what fueled Nexus during its prime and was the epitome of Nexus' design but the archons and kru/nexon got in the way of that creativity. It's the people that did these things that are the true representatives, not the people who just did busy work and politicing.

Posted by: Yeas Oct 30 2010, 02:01 AM

QUOTE (Winder @ Oct 29 2010, 05:39 PM) *
For you to be the judge of what represents the "essence" of a Barbarian is far more "super retarded". Let's be real here. Half of the people on this list are either whiny little kids, pushovers, or cared about themselves more than they ever cared about the people in the path. The fact that you'd mix names like Crumble, Zarcom, or Mnementh with MP's, CK's or LocoSam's is really an insult to some really great people.

But then again you could be right, no one knows more about being a suck up or a pushover more than you do. So I can't say you don't know what you're talking about.

No offense taken of course, I voted for LocoSam and SN over myself and I probably should have put down MP too. But I didn't base those votes off of how loud I thought someone could shout or how much bull[Content removed] they could spew.


Very inclined to agree with what Winder said. Most of the people listed by Tackle were either whiny, childish or emo to the point of idiocy.

Posted by: SilentS Oct 30 2010, 11:34 AM

Oh how history changes over time. When the days of the "raids" were going on, Barbs were just being a pain and using that as an excuse to be asses (many took it too far). At that time they were even labelled as "not true barbs" because of how much they changed from how they were originally. Now because most of the original players are gone, people only know of the time of those said raids and how those very asses were and think that is how the path is suppose to be. In 5-10 more years (face it, Nexus wont die out completely. Even at its current rate) people will only remember how they are now or even just the next phase of the Barbs change. Same can be said for any path.

Posted by: Killeh Oct 30 2010, 01:38 PM

I JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. QUIT FIGHTING. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD. NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME.

Posted by: MainAttraction Oct 30 2010, 05:26 PM

would you rather take part in a word scramble or a barb/chongun war? Those were epic, they built real emotions, backstories, hate, love for your character to the point where chonguns and barbarians couldn't even be in the same room, call it annoying or a "pain" but there was something special about being on whatever side you were and standing for something in your charcters world. It was much more interesting.

Posted by: Winder Oct 30 2010, 09:31 PM

QUOTE (MainAttraction @ Oct 30 2010, 06:26 PM) *
would you rather take part in a word scramble or a barb/chongun war? Those were epic, they built real emotions, backstories, hate, love for your character to the point where chonguns and barbarians couldn't even be in the same room, call it annoying or a "pain" but there was something special about being on whatever side you were and standing for something in your charcters world. It was much more interesting.


Likening the Barbarian/Chongun conflicts of long ago to the "raiding" we've been talking about thus far is like comparing a real war to a bunch of tea partiers storming an anti-gun rally or a group of atheists running into a church and yelling "god doesn't exist" like a bunch of 10 yr olds. It might be "fun" but it really has no substance.

Posted by: Musoyan Oct 30 2010, 09:42 PM

Barb raids were fun but they became a nussiance. You'd be holding an event in the palace and they would just run through trashing the event which became really annoying. Then I went and trashed the cave like last year and I was forced to give a public apology to barbarians or face punishment in my subpath..

Posted by: Killeh Oct 31 2010, 02:39 AM

QUOTE (Musoyan @ Oct 30 2010, 10:42 PM) *
Barb raids were fun but they became a nussiance. You'd be holding an event in the palace and they would just run through trashing the event which became really annoying. Then I went and trashed the cave like last year and I was forced to give a public apology to barbarians or face punishment in my subpath..


Yeah but I miss when like, 20 of them would throw meat around in the Buyan Palace back when I was a wee lass.

But srsly you guys got way too into this battleships and I just wanted votes ;n; I should have made it anonymous and then drew it and surprised you. THEN let you ragequit about it

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 31 2010, 07:33 AM

QUOTE (Killeh @ Oct 30 2010, 01:38 PM) *
I JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. QUIT FIGHTING. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD. NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME.


Welcome to the club. During my last venture in Nexus I tried real hard to get someone to work with me on making some subpath events that would have official support. Said person instead decided to argue that I wouldn't be able to achieve anything because, hey, he had been trying and nothing was ever accomplished. I said to just trust me and he said I was egotistical and knew nothing because I hadn't been around in awhile.

Unbeknownst to him I was sitting in the RPT map and could have, you know, yeah......I'm gonna stop there. Thinking about it just makes me angry all over again.

Some people you just can't help. Unfortunately a lot of them play Nexus.

QUOTE (SilentS @ Oct 30 2010, 11:34 AM) *
In 5-10 more years (face it, Nexus wont die out completely. Even at its current rate)


I wouldn't be so confident about that. Fact of the matter is bandwidth is expensive and an inactive player base won't be actively purchasing anything out of the kruna shop.

Sure, they are probably saving a bundle now that they aren't employing mug but the population is dwindling too, so it probably balances out.

Posted by: FireTiger Oct 31 2010, 04:51 PM

Shaman: Nezutora, Slowman
Diviner: DDstorm
Geomancer: MadamEdea

Chongun:Audi
Barbarian: GuaN
Do:

Muse: Lokira
Monk: Eowgala
Druid:

Spy: Chongun
Shadow: Strawberryrain
Ranger: Greta's Rogue
Merchant: everclear

Posted by: Adam Oct 31 2010, 05:05 PM

QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Oct 31 2010, 07:33 AM) *
Unbeknownst to him I was sitting in the RPT map and could have, you know, yeah......I'm gonna stop there.

What's the RPT map?

Posted by: Falaris Oct 31 2010, 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Adam @ Oct 31 2010, 05:05 PM) *
What's the RPT map?


A map where all the roleplaying troupe people go I would suppose.

Posted by: darkmaverick Oct 31 2010, 07:14 PM

It's a map only accessible to RPT members. I imagine it's now used for Kinung. It was being used for that project when I last played.

Posted by: Seressence Nov 1 2010, 04:27 PM

No love for Marstead for Diviner?

Posted by: Aens Sep 8 2014, 03:15 AM

Druid: Caera
Muse: Greensky
Monk: Janken

Spy: Aens
Merchant: Baiqin
Ranger: Riadora
Shadow: Citian

Diviner: Uoeia
Geomancer: Maevalia
Shaman: Beffycabeza


Chongun: Vini
Barbarian: Skogul
Do: Fpickledog


Posted by: SilentS Sep 8 2014, 08:29 PM

Yay for reviving a 4 yr old topic... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Oct 31 2010, 06:33 AM) *
I wouldn't be so confident about that. Fact of the matter is bandwidth is expensive and an inactive player base won't be actively purchasing anything out of the kruna shop.

Sure, they are probably saving a bundle now that they aren't employing mug but the population is dwindling too, so it probably balances out.

Seems my prediction is still holding strong....


BTW, that picture ever get finished?

Posted by: Aens Sep 9 2014, 05:08 AM

QUOTE (SilentS @ Sep 8 2014, 08:29 PM) *
Yay for reviving a 4 yr old topic... rolleyes.gif


Seems my prediction is still holding strong....


BTW, that picture ever get finished?



what picture. and hi smile.gif

Posted by: SilentS Sep 9 2014, 06:04 AM

The main point of this topic, a portrait of a group of people who represent each path in the game.

Posted by: JaydePhoenix Sep 11 2014, 04:08 AM

QUOTE (Killeh @ Oct 30 2010, 11:38 AM) *
I JUST WANTED TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. QUIT FIGHTING. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD. NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME.



This made me giggle out loud, hehe laugh.gif
I'm just excited to see some artwork! Well, when it's done.

Posted by: Berig Sep 12 2014, 10:35 AM

Looking forward to it also! tongue.gif

Posted by: BeffyCabeza Sep 26 2014, 04:14 PM

I totally still have my Killeh picture of Beff. biggrin.gif Great work. And I love seeing anyone's artwork really. I'm sub par when it comes to drawing tongue.gif

Posted by: Aens Sep 29 2014, 09:52 PM

QUOTE (BeffyCabeza @ Sep 26 2014, 04:14 PM) *
I totally still have my Killeh picture of Beff. biggrin.gif Great work. And I love seeing anyone's artwork really. I'm sub par when it comes to drawing tongue.gif



Hi Beffy, I'll never stop stalking you.

Even if you say stop.

biggrin.gif

Posted by: Hobart Jun 29 2015, 08:49 PM

Polls are fun.

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