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post Dec 27 2006, 02:09 PM
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Ok, I'm going to get right into the topic.

For all you people who are saying " OMG XPoetX is corrupt, lets get her removed blah blah blah"
well hey, let me give you the basics. If you READ my post on Community Post # 199 I posted this:



"Now The reason the two got banned for saying 'Fudge cookies' Was not a bad word. I was that you repeated the word over and over. Which caused a disruption. Disruption is one month ban. You were also warned So that was your warning. And lets see what happened.. Oh that right You all began to say it again when I told you the consequences. So That falls under Zero tolerence.. For those who do not understand let me show you.


Warning

Disruption-1month

Delay of fox hunt-1month

Now, since non of those should happen in fox hunts, That follows the ZERO TOLERENCE RULE. So that all equals up to 2 months


Thank you
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Oh my gawsh... Look at what is says... Now The reason the two got banned for saying 'Fudge cookies' Was not a bad word. I was that you repeated the word over and over. Which caused a disruption. Disruption is one month ban. You were also warned So that was your warning. And lets see what happened.. Oh that right You all began to say it again when I told you the consequences. So That falls under Zero tolerence.. For those who do not understand let me show you.

Alright... oh yea


Hey Sickchicken and SongoftheSea... Did you forget to tell the community about how you cursed at us? You know you used the filters and all. but god forbid that you didn't do anything wrong. Oh and SickChicken.. you forgot to put the part where you BROKE the filter and then stated it was a typo... I didn't really know you can mispell "Fcuck" Its really amazing... So put that in the community board. Let me see it. Oh wait. Thats right... You just want to put the things that make me look bad. So you know what...


As the GREAT SONNGOFTHESEA told me
" Go suck on a darning fudge cookie dog"

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stabme
post Dec 27 2006, 02:14 PM
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repeating a word over and over is a distraction? wow. ever been to a riches or, god forbid, an elixir? i wonder how you'd fare as a host there. there's f9. deal with it.


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post Dec 27 2006, 02:17 PM
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And you couldn't post this on community? Why?
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Doctor
post Dec 27 2006, 02:23 PM
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Yeah seriously, agree'd with Stab.

Elixir:

"BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS"
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"5 SECONDS 5 SECONDS 5 SECONDS DARNING MOVE OMG OMG OMG"

Fox Hunt hosts need to stop being so picky about what goes on and just do their job, which is to host the hunt.


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post Dec 27 2006, 02:44 PM
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Err why do we care? If anyone cares about this I'm sure there is already a thread about it where you can defend yourself.


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post Dec 27 2006, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor @ Dec 27 2006, 02:23 PM) [snapback]22177[/snapback]



Fox Hunt hosts need to stop being so picky about what goes on and just do their job, which is to host the hunt.



Ok you say To do our job... Well there are people like SickChicken and SongoftheSea to prevent us from doing our job. You think its easy. Ha well I laugh at you. You come and host something that so many people depend on for sam san. You come and deal with people complain " so-and-so hacks" You come in and deal with stupid people who say Fudge cookies and think that it offends me. Well Guess what... it doesn't
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post Dec 27 2006, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(XPoetX @ Dec 27 2006, 03:53 PM) [snapback]22182[/snapback]

You come and host something


I'll host.
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post Dec 27 2006, 03:04 PM
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I think the main problem is that people do have to depend on Fox hunt wins for Sam san. I also think a major problem is that fox hunts arent "random". Oaky even told Rubi that the teams are arranged so that people with more fox hunt wins dont go against "noob" teams. He even posted the screenshot. Now please tell me how a fox hunt is "random" if teams are arranged by hosts? I have never, ever been on a team where my Sam san character went against teams of noobs. The reason fox hunt hosts get such a hard time from players is partly Kru's fault. They have required that players have 15 wins to achieve Sam san and they require that you depend on 5 other players that you are supposedly "randomly" grouped with to achieve those 15 wins. Kru has given fox hunt hosts too much power in allowing them to choose "random" teams. Fox hunts should be autodye only. It would save hosts a lot of grief for having to deal with complaints of stacking teams. The hosts only jobs should be to start the hunts and send the winners to the north stables. They should have nothing to do with picking teams. That would eliminate the feeling of corruption that the community as been posting about forever.


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post Dec 27 2006, 03:13 PM
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If it was that easy to get autodye it would of happened a while ago.. but even if we didn't have 'random' teams we'd still get complaints because the same people will be the the same speedy people. And we can't do nothing about hackers unless you have proof.. And you can't really get proof of anyone speed hacking... If you can, please tell me That would be awsome...
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post Dec 27 2006, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(XPoetX @ Dec 27 2006, 03:13 PM) [snapback]22185[/snapback]

If it was that easy to get autodye it would of happened a while ago.. but even if we didn't have 'random' teams we'd still get complaints because the same people will be the the same speedy people. And we can't do nothing about hackers unless you have proof.. And you can't really get proof of anyone speed hacking... If you can, please tell me That would be awsome...



Yes, but if it was autodye then the same "speedy" people wouldnt be on the same teams week after week. I'm not expecting hosts to do anything about speed hackers. That is Kru's job. I expect for teams to be RANDOM and that means not hand picked by hosts and put up against other hand picked teams. If a team of noobs goes against a team of Sams then so be it. Dont tell a player "oh well we didnt want your team to go up against a team of noobs". Autodye needs to be implemented in Fox hunts so that if one team has all Sam sans then people can yell at the computer for picking it, not the hosts.


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post Dec 27 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(XPoetX @ Dec 27 2006, 11:53 AM) [snapback]22182[/snapback]

Ok you say To do our job... Well there are people like SickChicken and SongoftheSea to prevent us from doing our job. You think its easy. Ha well I laugh at you. You come and host something that so many people depend on for sam san. You come and deal with people complain " so-and-so hacks" You come in and deal with stupid people who say Fudge cookies and think that it offends me. Well Guess what... it doesn't

Name the date and time.

People depend on all of the things for sam san, so don't give me that.

They don't prevent you from doing your job, at all.

You deal with 12 people, elixir hosts deal with 50.


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post Dec 27 2006, 03:46 PM
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rofl xpoetx thats a sack of dang. riches/BL/elixir host go through SO much more than FH hosts. the whole reason zero tolerance was put in because things were getting RIDICULOUS at fox hunts because such a huge number of people needed wins for sams. it's no longer necessary for FH hosts to be so strict but they want to because it gives them a false sense of power.
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post Dec 27 2006, 04:43 PM
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I'm sorry to inform you but..Fox hunts is not tied in with Carnages/BL/elixirs. So basically xpoetX can do whatever He damn well pleases =p any who, the last I remember, carnage hosts are not allowed to f9 anyone, but if someone gets out of hand they have the ability to boot someone. heh thats my 2 cents =p
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post Dec 27 2006, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(XPoetX @ Dec 27 2006, 12:53 PM) [snapback]22182[/snapback]

Ok you say To do our job... Well there are people like SickChicken and SongoftheSea to prevent us from doing our job. You think its easy. Ha well I laugh at you. You come and host something that so many people depend on for sam san. You come and deal with people complain " so-and-so hacks" You come in and deal with stupid people who say Fudge cookies and think that it offends me. Well Guess what... it doesn't


Umm I was a foxhunt host and I was able to deal with distractions. Also like someone said earlier, the carnage hosts have WAY more to deal with than foxhunt hosts, i'd know because of all the whispers I got when I was a trainee, so you can just imagine how many more whispers the hosts get.


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post Dec 27 2006, 11:49 PM
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Drywater may have to correct my memory but someone was hired as a carnage host and fired within a week. How she later got on as a fox hunt host was beyond me, but now is exhibiting identical behavior for what she was removed for from carnage hosting in the first place.

And for the record, saying "whatever cookies" over and over again is not a distruption of the event if it did not prevent the host from doing his or her job or caused a delay in the event, like say killing a teammate would do.

Now if those words were like a threat like "Die IRL" or something like that, then probably the host would have a case for harrassment, but fudge cookies? I happen to think those are some very tasty sounding treats.

I suggest all fox hunt hosts spend 1 hour in an elixir arena with the group of old school tops like DarkTurtle and Firerific and that bunch. They will learn what real spam is.

Although we can ask them to have good manners and stop being annoying, you can't very well ban someone for it. That's just retarded and any archon who upholds that ban should be doubly smacked because the #1 rule in hosting is what?

"We are there to host a fun and fair event". Our job is to ensure that takes place, even at the cost of having some annoying kid yell cookies over and over. It did not distrupt the event, it did not delay the start of the round. It did not mean you had to go get a player that was killed. What did it really do other than annoy the host?

All I have to say is thank god Worldwalker has the babysititng job now because with crap like this going on, I would have to be jailed by the new carnage archon for calling him a moron 200 times a day for letting this kind of crap go on. Even if it's not in carnages - it's fox hunts, I just would have a very hard time standing by letting something like that happen and not say something to the carnage archon about it.

It's no longer players harrassing hosts - it's hosts harrassing players and even worse, getting away with it. I don't know this person who got banned for saying it but to you I say this

FUDGE COOKIES!!!!!!!!!
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post Dec 28 2006, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(XPoetX @ Dec 27 2006, 02:53 PM) [snapback]22182[/snapback]

You come in and deal with stupid people who say Fudge cookies and think that it offends me. Well Guess what... it doesn't

apparently it did. heh. fudge cookies. elixir hosts i know have to deal with more than you. whisper and out of whisper. you know what? deal with it. you have f9. so deal with it. fudge cookies. you're just being a fudge cookie here. fudge cookies. you think elixir hosts don't have to hear about hackers etc? fudge cookies.

just for this thread when i reg ill have all my characters nmail you "fudge cookie" and pm you "fudge cookies" multiple times.

hey, ...
FUDGE COOKIE
what's up?

no one stops you from doing your job from yourself. so deal with it, fudge cookie. and stop acting so HIGH AND MIGHTY BECAUSE OMG YOU CONTROL OUR SAM SAN FATE :''''( fudgecookie, okay? because that's just wrong fudgecookie. WRONG.


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post Dec 28 2006, 12:56 PM
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Well considering how this is no longer an actual argument..

Moved to Off-topic forum.
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post Dec 28 2006, 12:58 PM
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XPoetX -

For someone who can be as loquacious as I can be, I can't even find the words to describe what an absolutely horrible decision you made in this case. Coming from someone who has a hell of a lot more hosting experience in these types of events than you, I would say you are one of the reasons the community looks down on carnage and fox hunt hosts.

As my wife stated, if you were still able to do your job, then what these players did isn't a disruption. A disruption is something like inciting a riot in a carnage or saging a false start. Not spamming something over and over. And if you were upset that they were making fun of you, then perhaps a job hosting is not for you.

In fact, if I recall correctly, I'm pretty sure you aren't even supposed to be a host much less a head host for stunts similar to these that you pulled in carnage. I realize that fox hunt has and always will play second-fiddle and is an event for people who can't hack it as carnage hosts, but even then at least most of those people who get fired and run with their tail between their legs to fox hunts have enough common sense about deciphering rules. Instead of host harrassment from what the person was doing to you, you actually twisted the rules and managed to harrass the player instead.

Then again, if hosts actually did their jobs right, they wouldn't be harrassed in the first place, so I guess that might be another statement on you. I've had under 10 people actually cause me problems in years of hosting carnages. But those who did cause me problems, I certainly am not going to try to bend the rules to hurt them. If you can't take people using the filter to tell you nasty things, then you may not only want to quit being a host, but quit Nexus.

Worldwalker had a saying awhile ago and I'm sure she still uses it, something to the effect of when you put on the green dye and open the doors, any and all personal feelings and ties towards other people are gone. You are a host, you are there to do a job, and who you like or dislike gets left at the door. The reason I say this is I simply can't think that this action was completely unprovoked and that you would take this kind of action on a player without some personal feelings involved.

However, I think ultimately the thing that bothers me most is your response on the issue. You come on these boards and in a completely irresponsible and unprofessional manner attack those people right back, even insulting one with the same line that you banned them over? I don't know if you know what the word hypocrite means, but look it up at dictionary.com.

Disgusting.


-Falaris

P.S.- Moving the topic was a bad idea. Some of us have useful input.


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post Dec 28 2006, 01:06 PM
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Upon further review, you are probably right, moved back. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Let's keep this topic on xpoetx's decision, not fudge cookies.
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post Dec 28 2006, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Leonis @ Dec 28 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]22284[/snapback]

Upon further review, you are probably right, moved back. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Let's keep this topic on xpoetx's decision, not fudge cookies.


Wow, why not delete the whole topic then Leonis, the topics name IS FUDGE COOKIES. So it was xpoetx's decision to make this topic fudge cookies.


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