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post Sep 8 2015, 10:05 AM
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How out of touch are those high-jacking the NexusAtlas front page? The list of demands literally shows a complete lack of understanding of the core problems with how KRU Interactive chooses to run the game.

First, Mug is a huge part of the reason the game went into a rapid decline, and it's laughable to see that name as the first demand.
Mug understood one thing: care bear roleplay. That's it.
Mug did little to nothing positive or creative in terms of PvP or PvE content, and when it came to roleplay or proposed events that had any kind of conflict, Mug would fight tooth and nail to prevent or cancel it outright. I remember several times butting heads with her over issues with Nagnang, with several times being threatened to have my clan removed entirely if I continued to protest or propose ideas.
Sa san was a joke and did nothing to address the issues the game has with repetitive content and carpal tunnel inducing mechanics.
Nothing was done to address cave overcrowding or boss issues. A [Content removed]ing private server was able to create instanced boss, dungeon and hunting cave content, yet Mug couldn't.

The issue with events is tied directly to Mug's decline in events that mattered. Worse, because Mug doesn't understand PvP or PvE balance, rewards from events end up being either ridiculously over powered or completely useless. It's a crap shoot.

KRU doesn't give a [Content removed] about the organizations in and out game. They haven't for a very long time. When I was lead editor for NexusAtlas, I had constant communication with the team behind the GM Cerulean, and my staff was given early access to beta/bug test new content as well as be able to give sneak peaks of upcoming content.
KRU doesn't understand advertising or update teasing, so players end up in the dark until out of no where something is added with little fanfare. They can't excite the core base of players, which means all the free advertising they could get via word of mouth is basically non-existent.
Let's not forget the whole problem with the 'justice system' being used to grief players, and fan sites having to police content to make sure a swear word doesn't show up.
GMs and Archons alike, Mug especially, would sent me weekly mailings with links of content on NexusForums that had content or words that weren't 'compliant' with in game laws, and they would threaten to jail myself or my staff if we didn't take it down. How [Content removed]ed up is that?

Expand the Nexus? That'd involve actual work. You'd get a better chance seeing expansions, new content and new mechanics from a private server.

Communication: I'll agree. Don't hold your breath though, because this has been an issue since just after Cerulean stepped down.

Private servers exist because they fill a need for new content and advances in game play mechanics.
How about you just sell off all your useless NexusTK items in game and play E-TK or any other private server. They're far better run, have more updates and you'd be amazed the types of things these people have been able to do with such an old client.


I get the direction for this 'protest', but you're seriously wasting your time. The game is on its deathbed. Time jump ship and find something better, or play on a private server.


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post Sep 8 2015, 10:53 AM
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I don't post here often, but when I saw the new front page of Nexus Atlas I felt like I had to speak up.
Although I don't agree with much else in Conro's post, I too am surprised that some people (apparently those behind NA) want Mug to return. I've been around Nexus for years and seen my fair share of GMs. And Mug was without a doubt one of the worst. His only saving grace was that he had good intentions. Sadly he lacked everything else - knowledge, talent, creativity, humility and a basic understanding of his own role in the game.

Honestly it continues to surprise and annoy me that some people loved Mug so much and wear such rose-tinted glasses when speaking of him. All he did in the game was build up a cult of personality around himself. Events ended up being about him. Items in the kruna shop were advertised with his name. He would stand in public places, only to get attention from people. He appeared randomly in subpath circles (and probably clan halls too), just to have people worship him for no apparent reason. I'm sure that if you bought into his cult of personality, he appeared like a great GM and you probably feel a sense of nostalgia about those days. But I found it extremely distasteful. I never signed up to play MugTK, and I do NOT want those days to return.
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post Sep 8 2015, 01:39 PM
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Intentions are well meant, but it would have been better to gather ideas as a collective and present those. Right now it looks like it was written from one persons view point, and sadly I don't think it represents the majority at this point. I think it would be better for people, and NexusAtlas included to help people discover private servers and prop those up. KRU clearly does not care, and I would rather see people put in effort and time into a private server where updates are made and people actually listen. It is not the private servers that are hurting Nexus. They exist for a reason and that is because these people no longer find enjoyment in Nexus.
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
Sa san was a joke and did nothing to address the issues the game has with repetitive content and carpal tunnel inducing mechanics.

The whole game is repetitive mechanism. At least he fixed the boring woodcutting system from picking up sticks from the ground.

QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
Nothing was done to address cave overcrowding or boss issues. A [Content removed]ing private server was able to create instanced boss, dungeon and hunting cave content, yet Mug couldn't.

I agree instanced caves and multi-boss rooms would be VERY good. But You're pointing the flaws that EVERY GM had. No GM did that, not just mug. While Mug did implement dozens of new hunting caved.

QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
KRU doesn't give a [Content removed] about the organizations in and out game. They haven't for a very long time. When I was lead editor for NexusAtlas, I had constant communication with the team behind the GM Cerulean, and my staff was given early access to beta/bug test new content as well as be able to give sneak peaks of upcoming content.

First off, Cerulean was an archon primogen, not GM. Second, I was in your staff when Cerulean was around and I can tell everyone here that this never ever happened. Cerulean didn't give us any sort of sneak peek or any beta testing. If Cerulean gave YOU certain privileges you made sure to keep that to yourself, but not to NA staff.

Mug did give NA sneak peeks of Kinung, Gogoon and such with 1 single intention: Show to other players. Not to please a single group of people. Most of NA was invited to help with Alpha testing and beta testing of Nexus 6.0 and this was under Mug too.

QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
KRU doesn't understand advertising or update teasing, so players end up in the dark until out of no where something is added with little fanfare. They can't excite the core base of players, which means all the free advertising they could get via word of mouth is basically non-existent.

This is true. But back then they used Newsletters rarely. Since never we never got any. Also since Mug left GMs never contacted NA about anything at all, ever. Not to help with sneak peeks, not to complain about a post. Nothing.

QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
Let's not forget the whole problem with the 'justice system' being used to grief players, and fan sites having to police content to make sure a swear word doesn't show up.

GMs and Archons alike, Mug especially, would sent me weekly mailings with links of content on NexusForums that had content or words that weren't 'compliant' with in game laws, and they would threaten to jail myself or my staff if we didn't take it down. How [Content removed]ed up is that?


This is NOT TRUE. Mug NEVER threatened to jail anyone in game for things that happened in Nexus Forums and you know that. What he did was threat to remove Nexus Forums from the list of "safe websites" who followed URL 41.

QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
Communication: I'll agree. Don't hold your breath though, because this has been an issue since just after Cerulean stepped down.

Cerulean didn't step down. Cerulean was fired. Also, Cerulean was crappy with communications and tried to force her opinion on players. She didn't care for player satisfaction, she wanted the game to be her way, once she modified a whole map requested by us and was refusing to change it to the original request because she was the AP and she could decide what was to be added or not.
Just read Dream Weaver's board and you'll see how good each GMs communicated things. Mug was very good at communicating what he was working on, the stage of each process and what he would be working next.

I'm not saying Mug is perfect, but he at least cared and tried to do good stuff. It was the time when Nexus had most new content and we heard most about what was coming. Mug was hard to listen sometimes, but after a good argumentation he would listen.
At least he would read our opinion.

QUOTE (Conro @ Sep 8 2015, 11:05 AM) *
I get the direction for this 'protest', but you're seriously wasting your time. The game is on its deathbed. Time jump ship and find something better, or play on a private server.


If you think that, why the heck do you continue reading Nexus Atlas or coming to Nexus Forums. Why don't you jump out of this ship and find something better and stick to your private server. We still like Nexus. We still care about it and we'll still try our best efforts to help it. Perhaps this protest will worst, perhaps it won't. All we know is that we're still trying because you like it.

You're the one losing your time coming to a forum of a game you claim to dislike and claim to be on deathbed. Find another one and leave us be with our futile efforts. It's our time we're losing.


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post Sep 8 2015, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Musoyan @ Sep 8 2015, 02:39 PM) *
Intentions are well meant, but it would have been better to gather ideas as a collective and present those. Right now it looks like it was written from one persons view point, and sadly I don't think it represents the majority at this point. I think it would be better for people, and NexusAtlas included to help people discover private servers and prop those up. KRU clearly does not care, and I would rather see people put in effort and time into a private server where updates are made and people actually listen. It is not the private servers that are hurting Nexus. They exist for a reason and that is because these people no longer find enjoyment in Nexus.


You're welcome to voice your opinion and we can add to the protest.
The protest is headed by Nexus Atlas. We had the post up for discussion and decided to go forward with it. This doesn't mean the post is closed and cannot change. If people have valid things to add or remove we'll surely change it.

I agree when you say that private servers exist because Nexus isn't providing the enjoyment these people would want anymore. That's why closing the private servers is the last of the 6, because without doing the first 5, closing them will have no change into the game and risks losing players to complete different games.

Either way, give good suggestions. We are all ears to it! No one here is trying to say this is the definitive solution, to be honest the greatest solution we can find is: find someone who truly cares to run NexusTK.


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post Sep 8 2015, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (Runai @ Sep 8 2015, 11:53 AM) *
His only saving grace was that he had good intentions. Sadly he lacked everything else - knowledge, talent, creativity, humility and a basic understanding of his own role in the game.


Mug had very good intentions to nexus because he truly cared. He had much creativity hence why he created bunch of New stuff that nexus never had before. After Orb, Mug was the one who invented most new stuff. Was under Mug that we got Gogoon, Ultimate Gauntlet, Kinung, Hamyong Nam-Do new caves, Ancient caves, Haengsa, new woodlands and the fabled Woodlands diary quest.

QUOTE (Runai @ Sep 8 2015, 11:53 AM) *
Honestly it continues to surprise and annoy me that some people loved Mug so much and wear such rose-tinted glasses when speaking of him. All he did in the game was build up a cult of personality around himself. Events ended up being about him.


There was only 1 event which Mug participated. The Immortal Beasts which was his last event.

QUOTE (Runai @ Sep 8 2015, 11:53 AM) *
Items in the kruna shop were advertised with his name.


True. But he could trick us like Orb did and create a secondary character to pretend was someone else doing. Would be much more legit, right?

QUOTE (Runai @ Sep 8 2015, 11:53 AM) *
He would stand in public places, only to get attention from people. He appeared randomly in subpath circles (and probably clan halls too), just to have people worship him for no apparent reason. I'm sure that if you bought into his cult of personality, he appeared like a great GM and you probably feel a sense of nostalgia about those days. But I found it extremely distasteful. I never signed up to play MugTK, and I do NOT want those days to return.


Yes, I agree Mug would appear too much to the public, but was because he thought people liked it. Was almost an event for people when he did. Also, if you recall he would show up during weekends or way beyond PST working hours. Which means he was doing that not during work hours, but because he cared for Nexus. I agree that in terms of roleplay that wasn't good, but people liked it and he was trying to make them happy to know the GM cared.


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post Sep 8 2015, 05:49 PM
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Conro is absolutely right. There's a reason Runegard, Nexia, CoM, E T K, and others have popped up.

Edit: Seriously? We're all adults here. You have to filter words still?
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post Sep 8 2015, 08:48 PM
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Demanding Mug back is laughable.


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mug was a terrible GM. He had no people skills, he drove people from the game - and couldn't handle any criticism. mug had a horrendous issue with ego, and no - he/she did not care for NexusTK. Your opinion obviously differs, and that's fine. People have been protesting the inactivity of KRU for a long while, Vini (via tickets, direct
mails to Stein or Aliluseless and posts on Rambling Thoughts.) Has anything changed? No. You can certainly take a new direction and hold whatever protest you like. I think you will be very disappointed in the end.

I'm not going to bother debating the content mug "put into" the game - if some people enjoy it - great.

Conro has valid points - and if you feel that telling him to gtho gives weight to your BRING BACK MUG campaign - so be it. It doesn't. I'd say Conro's general points about things that have happened throughout the history of NexusTK would be better representative of the Community's feelings at large, much moreso than your list of demands. It is hard to find people that enjoyed mug's style of leadership. Which Runai summed up rather perfectly.

As for your replies to Conro, Musoyan, and Runai - I'd like to correct you on some things.

mug did have a character that he would bring to Community events. He made items for this character - and immediately became one of the richest people in game. Also - the legend he gave himself? Born before the great shift. So to whatever Orb did - mug is just as guilty. Also, the Archons under mug had insane maps that they could hang around in. It would have been stellar if that time was put into content for the general Community - but that would have been asking too much. I think mug used NexusTK as his/her own personal plaything. I'm sure he/she enjoyed it to that extent. If mug was nice to you Vini - great. But the game lost numbers during mug's time as GM. Was it due to an aging game or poor leadership? Probably a mixture of both.

The forum mug held? I hope everyone goes and looks at the transcript. It shows what a complete ass mug was - and nothing came of it. The Woodlands Diary Quest? "Worst quest in a video game. Any video game." The person who said that can stay anonymous, but it is completely accurate. It's been changed, has no interesting interactive elements and it hasn't been solved and might be the finest trolling job pulled off. mug doesn't get credit for that cluster[Content removed].

The private servers? I have personally never played on one. But, why shut them down? To force people back to this game? Seems a bit silly. That aside - I am not entirely sure what legal claim KRU has on the content. I don't know the particulars of the agreement between Nexon and KRU. If Nexon wanted them shut down and it was worth the time - I'm sure they could do it. Then again - it is very possible I am wrong. I just think the private servers have nothing to do with the state the game is in currently. The private servers - if anything - came from the discontent people felt with the neglect of NexusTK.

As for your mention of the mapmaker on the list of demands: mug didn't give us any updated tools either. That has been an issue far before Stein. We have been given outdated tools to create content for a game that doesn't seem real keen on surviving. It's a waste of time for any Elder or other player that tries to create new content - only to go back and forth with Alilolelotte or some other useless Archon.

NexusTK had a great deal of potential. Shame it was squandered away. Too many people are power hungry. We have Elders that have stayed in power for over 5 years. That is insane. And the Archons? It's laughable. (There's a good Office Space clip that shows just how useful people they are.)

The Justice System is bizarre and archaic. It -does- exist to grief players at this point - and if you question Teragg or any of his judges - be prepared for hilarity. The truth is - adults play this game now. Keeping a Justice System in place just serves to create an atmosphere where people can readily [Content removed] with eachother in the most juvenile ways. Treating your player base like a group of unruly children isn't going to really do you any good. In the end - you will most likely end up with just that - a group of unruly children.

Dressing up in ruby dye and dropping roses isn't going to help. Overloading a system that is already ignoring tickets with more tickets isn't going to help. Calling for the return of mug - isn't a thing that most people want.

"It's our time we're losing."

Yup. This is a good slogan for TK these days. For every person registered and posting in the forums. I suggest turning it over to Jann and having him put it in an ad. At least it would be honest.


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post Sep 8 2015, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (Aiaya @ Sep 8 2015, 08:48 PM) *
People have been protesting the inactivity of KRU for a long while, Vini (via tickets, direct mails to Stein or Aliluseless and posts on Rambling Thoughts.) Has anything changed? No. You can certainly take a new direction and hold whatever protest you like. I think you will be very disappointed in the end.

Disappointed we all are already. If this attempt will have any return, we don't know. But at least we're trying something. wink.gif

Also protesting to Stein or Alilolelotte isn't the way to go. Alilolelotte works DAILY to help keep nexus alive. She didn't give up on Nexus yet and her work is one of the reasons why we're still here playing and believing things can change. If was up to her, Nexus would have daily new content and weekly events.

I don't think it is Stein's fault either. From all I know Stein is a very good GM and usually added things very fast over the past years. The problem is we think Stein isn't in charge of just Nexus. He is probably in charge of Nexus, Dark Ages, Shattered Galaxy. RoboSmasher, Robo Toma GT and Inferno IX.

What Nexus needs is a dedicated GM. Doesn't matter if it's Mug or someone else. We just need a GM just for Nexus, who works 8 hours per day, 5 days a week and has nexus servers status on his phone in case the servers are down they can quickly fix it. If Stein can be the GM for just Nexus then great we would be happy with it.


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post Sep 9 2015, 07:08 AM
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I honestly thought it was all a bad joke.

Yeah, I never had/have the positions other people commenting here have, but I'd like to think (or hope) that my "body of work" in Nexus speaks for itself. I never had what anyone would call a direct line to Mug, or any of the at least 3 people with access to him, but when I did deal with him directly, it usually ended with me having an apple dropped in front of me in response to a serious bug in the game (Fox hunts, our spells, community quests like throwing axe.) Yeah, Mug had his finer moments, sure. But it really depended on who was Mug at the time. Asking for Mug back is like asking for someone with multiple personalities to abandon the others and stick with the one -you- want, it never happens, ever, period.

Living where I do (Seattle) I see all manner of "protesting" than I care to, and quite honestly, the people who were protesting in front of a Shell gas station have a better rate of success than NA does...and the ship has literally set sail months ago here.

I applaud the effort, I honestly do. It's the lack of things to do other than grind my lazy ass to Oh san that keeps me away, but a list of demands put forth in such a way has worked on so few accounts, and thinking that Kru is going to give a crap, it's grasping at straws...or worse.

Some times you have to let a sinking ship sink, that way it turns into artificial coral, and new life adapts to it when its under the water.

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post Sep 9 2015, 07:29 AM
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Vini, I get that you're a fan girl for Mug, but seriously, when I was heading NexusAtlas I would get SEVERAL mails a month with direct links to forum posts that contained content that violated in game laws, and I was threatened several times with being jailed if I refused to take down or edit posts.

No other game or fan site I've played/used/worked for has ever done this.

Couple that with the lack of communication I had with Mug on even minor game changes and you can see why I think Mug was an absolutely horrible person and GM.


Also, Cerulean gave myself and several staff members who I deemed trustworthy early access to the Vortex and other areas before their release. Just because you weren't one of them doesn't mean it didn't happen.


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If Kru would actually do their job I doubt there would even be private TK servers and even if there was they wouldn't be popular if Kru actually gave a [Content removed] about their game and their customers. When is the last time we actually had a decent event that was no recycled? The last one I remember was Asmodi and that one was only decent. Kru recycles event's and expects it's customers to be ok with them. Putting out butterflies for valentines or santa mhul or those other crappy "events" is not doing work all they do is prob copy and paste code in and bam done. I have no shame in playing private servers and I have played TK for 14-15 years. As far as i'm concerned right now Kru probably has one employee who can barely code and just comes in every day to make sure the servers are at least online so people can bot in hunts or buy kruna. If Kru wanted to "shut down private servers" all they would have to do it actually put effort into their game instead of not even giving the bare minimum. Even if Stein was able to pull off Oh san somehow it would probably be poorly done and would only bring people back for probably 2-3 months max before they realized yet again Kru was looking to do nothing and collect paychecks.
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post Sep 9 2015, 03:06 PM
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You can't run a game with only good intentions. Mug was hard headed and refused to listen to the general consensus. I also agree with others saying that Mug was a bad GM. Okay, he changed woodcutting from picking up an axe to just swinging one. Yay. Wasn't it also Mug that introduced Tangun, which is probably largely responsible for the declining population? No one wants to play the game after that crap area. Gogoon was Mug's huge project that was going to revolutionize Nexus, but all it ended up being was an enormous and mostly unused map with the exception of a FEW hunting caves. 90% of it is vacant.

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QUOTE (Vini @ Sep 8 2015, 11:45 PM) *
But at least we're trying something. wink.gif

Also protesting to Stein or Alilolelotte isn't the way to go. Alilolelotte works DAILY to help keep nexus alive. She didn't give up on Nexus yet and her work is one of the reasons why we're still here playing and believing things can change. If was up to her, Nexus would have daily new content and weekly events.

I don't think it is Stein's fault either. From all I know Stein is a very good GM and usually added things very fast over the past years. The problem is we think Stein isn't in charge of just Nexus. He is probably in charge of Nexus, Dark Ages, Shattered Galaxy. RoboSmasher, Robo Toma GT and Inferno IX.


Yeah. You're trying something. It hasn't rained in years and you're just standing in the street screaming at the sky. I feel secure in calling that a [Content removed]ing waste of time.

And yes, I know you like Alilolelotte. That's all well and good. As far as actually doing anything? She is useless. And petty. Is that because her hands are tied and she's frustrated? Maybe. I think she's served her time though and it'd be a swell idea to hit the road. Though, it'd hardly make any difference. She has a fundamental misunderstanding of the majority of her player base and is incredibly disconnected. Just like mug. We can agree to disagree.

If it's not mug, and it's not Stein, and it's not the Archons - where is your issue? Kru? It's the whole system.


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Oh man. Not gonna lie, this has all been amazing to read.

I have loved nexus for a great deal of time. Not as long as many of you (only since mid 2000s) but still. I will always hope that the sinking ship can be patched, but at some point I had to put the bailing bucket down and get on the life raft. I don't agree with a lot of the stuff listed in the demands but I can relate to the feelings being expressed by them. Sadness, loss, desperation even. I wish all of you good luck.

Side note: How the crap can archon autonomy be a demand? Don't archons essentially police themselves at this point? How can you get more autonomous than that?


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Xing-Yu Seong
post Sep 10 2015, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (STK @ Sep 9 2015, 11:46 AM) *
If Kru would actually do their job I doubt there would even be private TK servers and even if there was they wouldn't be popular if Kru actually gave a [Content removed] about their game and their customers.


I keep seeing this brought up, but I don't think the onus is on KRU to resolve this problem. This is more Nexon Korea's area, since KRU doesn't own the content and client itself, it just builds within the framework provided to them on their server. If KRU had any pull in this matter, outside of in-game punishment, they'd have done it already. Most of the private servers are abroad; the ones I worked with had their SQL and SVN backends in Europe or Asia (there were some exceptions, of course).

Also,

This list of demands is unmeetable. I like you, Vini -- I respect the work you've done both in and out of game; but this protest of demands is over the top. What do you think the company is going to do? It's going to keep running the server. It's going to keep doing nothing. Because you'll still play, and they know it.

Go play a different game, dude. I'm sorry. The people who loved NTK the most, and could do something, WERE the private servers.
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:19 PM
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Keep up with the protest.
Become dissatisfied with the results.
Pretend it didn't happen.
Do it 5x more times in a new fashion, with a new pitch.
Pretend the game is just fine.
It's not the administrative end of the game that's [Content removed]ed up.
It's your fellow players.
They don't see what you see.
They are crazy and you are right.

Jesus christ, open your [Content removed]ing eyes - or at the very least don't be so smug with how cushioned the game is for you.

This game has been dead for years, and not even on a macro scale. Archons [You know, the people you're playing with AND against] will continuously [Content removed] with you even if you are trying to be creative in how you play the game. Everybody has to be held at the same standard, nobody can be made to 'feel bad'. Also, both parties have to receive a ribbon at whatever event/enterprise/yadda yadda you're trying to promote within the game. I've always tried to look past this because [Content removed] it, if I can have fun with the players then what the hell do I care about the administrative staff behind it? The problem is even that's jeopardized now. The same people that herald how proper and well to do the Archons act, are the same one in their pocket and vice versa (this would've been news 3-4 years ago). The truth of the matter is that blurring the line between Administrative staff and PLAYERS is the big downfall of this game. You can't have staff choosing to play the game - Kind of like a leader cannot be friends with his underlings. It does not work. Anyways, the game was fun, I'll look back on it thinking about very intense conversations, weird storylines, weirder people, and interesting characters that I got to witness and create as well. That's pretty alright with me.

P.S - I'm not dead friends, Hey!
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post Sep 10 2015, 01:01 PM
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Vini, try a private server.



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post Sep 10 2015, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Xing-Yu Seong @ Sep 10 2015, 09:57 AM) *
This list of demands is unmeetable. I like you, Vini -- I respect the work you've done both in and out of game; but this protest of demands is over the top. What do you think the company is going to do? It's going to keep running the server. It's going to keep doing nothing. Because you'll still play, and they know it.


Right. The only protest that will make a difference now is with your wallet. As long as folks continue to pay for zero service they are going to continue offering zero service. Why should they do any work if they know people will keep paying. It's easy money and they don't gotta do anything to get it.
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