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> Biggest Problem With Nexus, Which is it?
Biggest Problem With Nexus
Which of these is the biggest problem with nexus?
Everything dealing Carnages/Elixers/Bloodlusts/Foxhunts [ 7 ] ** [6.60%]
The events or lack their of (all things concering Kru events) [ 15 ] ** [14.15%]
Subpathes. Quotes, elders, guides, the way they are run ETC. [ 4 ] ** [3.77%]
The majority of the community [ 31 ] ** [29.25%]
Lack of commitment to improve by Kru, to just fixing servers and other errors here and there. [ 25 ] ** [23.58%]
The San trials, and the lack of a Sa San. [ 3 ] ** [2.83%]
Game politics, and corruption. [ 21 ] ** [19.81%]
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Engell
post Jul 28 2006, 11:27 PM
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What's your opinion?

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post Jul 28 2006, 11:47 PM
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Oh wow...this was a hard poll to answer, since there's so much wrong with each category. In the end, I went with the community. The entire community aspect of Nexus has gone totally downhill, especially recently.

I could keep going on and on about this, but it's late and I'm tired and other people will most likely have their own rants that are better than mine. tongue.gif


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post Jul 29 2006, 02:19 AM
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I vote "Lack of commitment to improve by kru" because that right there is 90% of the reason why everything else has problems.

The GM has control over everything.
Everything.

If something is screwed up with -anything-, and it continues to be screwed up, it is because the GM has not fixed it.

They even have control over the community, or lack thereof.


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post Jul 29 2006, 03:09 AM
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I found that most Elixir Junkies are extremely rude. Not all, but most.
Especially IN the Elixirs...

"Zomg, shoot --->!!!!!! RED INCOMING ITZ A LYNE!!"
Sidelines: "OH NO!!! WHAT WILL WE DO?!"
"I'm out of arrows."
"Y R U OUT OF ARROWS?????????!!!"
"You told me to save you. And him. And her."
"Y U DO THAT?!??!?!?"
"So we could have more defense!"
"ZOMG NUB I HAT U NOW WER GUNNA LOSE GD."
Sidelines: "OH NO!!! WHAT WILL WE DO?!"
"Then why don't YOU shoot?!"
*other player shoots like mad but hits nobody*
"UMMM... LAG LAG GOD BIG LAG I HATE U KRU GD LAG KILLIN' MAH GAME GD!"
Red: [enter name here] got the trophy!
"GD ITZ ALL UR FAULT GD NUB. I WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD [enter name of better person here] ON OUR TEAM GDDDDD."

I also find them somewhat unreliable. This also doesn't happen in a lot of cases, but it has actually happened to me once a long time ago and it kind of made me mad..

*from one person to an elixir junkie*
"Hey, I need to go into vale skells for a few for some yellow ambers and I need a mage. Come with?"
"Sure."
*they both enter vale*
Nagnang Elixir War (11 to 99) doors opening
- Carnage Host Nanami
"ZOMG 'LIXIR!!"
"Yeah. Wait until 5 minute sage comes, okay? I just need a few for this.."
*equips elixir bow*
"No I gotta go now. I gotta get a good group together."
"But I really need these am--"
Bellamuse has been slain by [enter name of elixir junkie here]
"LOLZ NOW U NEED A REZ REALLY BAD HAHA PWWWWNT. I'll help later ttyl."

I've also realized a group of elixir junkies made a ring called 'CampRus?'
That ruins the roleplay aspect of tribes. I guarantee you will not, under any circumstances, have a band of people shouting "LIXIR! LIXIR!" running at you in -any- kind of ancient times, like so.

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You probably wouldn't see anything else like we see (ie: Bear Clan, Dharma Clan, Elendhirin Clan, etc.), but it's a little more likely than that. If you take out the aspect of the arrows and the bow. But these people are obsessing over getting
people out in a computer game by dying them blue or red. x.x;

The only nice one I've met is Zario. There's more I should meet, I suppose, but from the other ones I've seen they all act similar to that. And that, I believe, is partially responsible for the downfall of Nexus. :<
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post Jul 29 2006, 03:39 AM
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Bella... you're absolutely right. I think rude/inconsiderate people in general are the downfall of nexus, elixirs are just a good way to...um, show it.

Of course, I can get carried away in elixirs, too, but I never try to be deliberately mean to someone when they screw up/die/whatever. I've been to enough elixirs to know that everyone screws up at some point in their "elixir" careers, it's just a matter of time...

That's why I really hate it when people get pissed off just because someone died or doesn't hit someone or doesn't get the trophy, and the (angry) person thinks that's the entire reason the elixir was lost. Yeah, right. There's about ten million factors that attribute to a losing game, so... those people should shut their traps. They just look really stupid and whiny.

However, when you get a good group of people going (like GM, Ventus, Gnoff, stabme, etc), they are really great people to talk to and are (haha, usually) patient with elixirs. You should try to meet more of them ^^ The people you are referring to (the annoying ones that are killing nexus!) are not usually people I associate with (haha). Also, the people who get the most work done in elixirs aren't the ones shouting profanities and wasting time putting down others. I could name a few people who act like retards, but... of course, I won't. It ruins the game when people are rude. Whenever I shout things or whatever, I'm... kidding around, and I make it clear that I am.. laugh.gif Elixirs are supposed to be fun, right? wink.gif Games are supposed to be fun... right?

Oh, and PS... real elixir junkies plan ahead of elixirs... so they don't hunt or do anything when the game rolls around. Some of us even wake up early for the noon ones! *gasp*

On the previous note... I voted for the majority of the community. Except for the Forsaken clan and the Diviners.. hahaha.. cool.gif

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post Jul 29 2006, 04:05 AM
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I'm really glad that KRU is adding things, it seems like he's at least attempting it. We've had a slew of recent events in just a few months time, and he's probably working on satisfying customers with new content (like the rumors of Han eventually being added), new flashy items and such. No one really knows if he's working on path balance, but I generally think he's better than Eldridge (yes, we're stupid for not guessing that one string of words that will prompt that NPC in the pirate event to let us continue)

I voted politics and corruption.


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post Jul 29 2006, 04:07 AM
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You know, in most other MMORPGs, people are generally too busy having fun to want to go out of there way to annoy other people.

That, and the dev make it nigh impossible to grief anyone.

In all the time I played CoH, I met zero griefers. This includes people spamming for requests. It just doesnt happen or it happens so rarely I have never seen it.

If people can grief others inside elixers and carnages, it's because kru does nothing to distract people from wanting to grief inside an elixer/carnage.

I think there is so many angry players in Nexus because the game sucks so bad. They just arent having much fun.


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post Jul 29 2006, 09:40 AM
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There isn't much wrong with the community. They are showing their dissaproval of what Kru is doing...He could easily come on here and ask for opinions...least other companies use CM's to get opinions on things concerning the game. I'm going to go with DM on this one...90% Kru's fault. Most of the problems that occur can be fixed but automation, but thus everyone would quit because thier lust for the controlling of everyone would be gone. Elders, Hosts, Primo's.
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If you think about it...that is right....if kru themselves would implement more things and fix more things to keep us active and to keep us interested in the game..no one would have time to be as annoying as they are because they are too busy doing what they should be doing....and that is playing the game...you're always going to have the rude people...and the people that think they are hot [Content removed]...but if you can keep them active and busy...you'll have less of that within the community...In my "opinion" Kru needs to step it up..you can blame it on fan base and that is the reason they do not do anything...but how can you have fan base when you do nothing to keep it or introduce it...you get what you pay for, and you get out of something what you put in...kru not doing a damn thing to make it interesting, makes for lack of player interest...and this event we are having now is a joke...add a few new items and we are all happy for 2 days...then they come to realize...oh wait...you have 40 pairs of boots...but everyone else in the game does too...so now they are worhtless, how can you change the name and color of an item and say oh look variety lol your not fooling anyone...also along with that...why are the items we weild so...I guess stupid...How can a warrior Hold two plates of food and beable to swing harder...and how can someone wear "2" pairs of boots at the same time...and who would go into battle with dragons...holding two flutes...I just think they need to sit back and actually listen to us for once and do things tht will make gameplay better...make items in event's where the weapon only drops once...or only a few amount do, dont make items drop to the point your killing the economy, you've done it with the big axe...you've done it to the surge...and now the blood...what's next 200k vortex hand item week?


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post Jul 29 2006, 10:32 AM
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Voted lack of commitment. As abovementioned, this is quite a difficult poll to do. Well for one, I have to admit that Kru is a little better compared to Nexon but the fact that it's still far from what most people expected - at least that's what I think.

Is it just me or is it true that Kru actually bothers more about "eye-candy" and 1337 itamx (( couldn't resist the temptation to use that word )) rather than actually "fixing" the whole game itself.

People know what needs to be changed. At least most people do. These "most" people, I believe made an effort to post on the Dreams Board or at least sent a ticket to Kru. But is it worth the time they spent? I doubt so.

And the community! Why is there so much idiocy? Probably because there are very few things to do. The numbers of power-hunters compared to roleplayers does not balance. No; I'm not saying they need to be, but a fact - roleplay has just...

Oh. Not forgetting the subpaths. Why is it that only mages and poets subpaths that simply doesn't have any single disadvantages whether they choose to join a subpath or not? Until this is totally fixed; I repeat, TOTALLY fixed, I doubt everything will change... or rather, I doubt people will actually find that Nexus has improved.

But who knows? It's just my opinion anyway.
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post Jul 29 2006, 12:15 PM
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I would say a minority of the community or quite possibly bugs in the game like the one in HH which instakills you with no monsters anywhere around.


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post Jul 29 2006, 12:57 PM
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I think the factors that "ruin" nexus (and how people answer this question) are based off of what each person has experienced... someone who is around n00bs who don't do anything all the time are going to think it's the community, and someone's who's been to one carnage event and hated it will probably say those are the problem... and people who have had poor experiences with people in power would say something to that effect.

Every single one of the options for this poll are causing problems within nexus, and it's gotten really bad lately because they're all... well, giving this game a bad name.

But I think it's too soon to blame kru for all of the game's problems. I think they've done a great job so far in trying to keep the game's interest level up with events, new items (everyone LOVES new itams), and such. Okay, yeah, with the items, maybe there's the whole "everyone has them" problem, but at least we're getting them at all. I've seen more positive changes with kru than I've ever seen with nexon. So maybe kru contributes poorly to the game a little bit, but... I think everything else is more worrisome than just that.


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post Jul 29 2006, 01:18 PM
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Kru has been in power for over a year now. In that time we have had one large client change, which Nexon had already been preparing, three events--one large RP, one very buggy and poorly planned lost mines, and one mongol invasion--two or three small occurrences, like the ball or Yuri's death, and not much else. It is definitely -not- too early to blame Kru, considering things have continued to go down hill since Kru took power, and things are as slow-paced now as they ever were under Eldridge. There should always be at least one good-sized event per Nexus year. And it's really not that hard to do. They did it back in beta when we weren't even paying them, and they managed it with a staff of similar size under Kismet.

I don't think Kru is solely responsible for the problems with the game... some of the players it trusts to be volunteers are causing problems, too. But largely, it is Kru's fault, and if it's too soon now to blame them, then when can we?
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post Jul 29 2006, 03:09 PM
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Would I be one of the rude and inconsiderate people ruining the game?
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post Jul 29 2006, 03:11 PM
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To reiterate my "statement" in the Artwork thread, one of the biggest problems for me is this:

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE:
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No, not the elixir/carnage debate specifically, though that one sure does tick me the hell off. It's the fact that so many people look at this game as "one side against the other" or worse, "every man for himself."

I'm not going to look the other way and not admit that KRU has not really been doing its job of maintaining and adding content, keeping on top of bugs, following through with promises, or even offering stability when it comes to the servers. But KRU's shortcomings aren't what really grind my nerves; it's the people who do nothing but complain about anything and everything, who make me want to rip the community board apart with my BARE HANDS.

Really, how much fun is it to complain and complain and grief and whine and angst all over the place--to be KNOWN for having a chip on your shoulder and an awful attitude? I know it's a bit hackneyed, but honestly, if you don't like the game, then LEAVE. I quit Nexus for 3+ years because I got so bored with it, and now that I've come back, it's fresh and fun again. I don't understand people who are so "old" that they just don't care anymore. THEY'VE SEEN IT ALL, they complain constantly and compare everything to the 'good old days', everyone hates them for being a pompous elitist know it all, they're constantly whining about how horrible KRU is, and yet they KEEP PLAYING.

Not everyone has the same opinions and viewpoints as you. Isn't that something we all learned in kindergarten? That's why there are an equal amount of elixirs and carnages, that's why subpaths exist, that's why you have the option of powerhunting until your fingertips are raw, that's why you have the option of roleplaying until your asterisk key doesn't work anymore, and THAT is why we have to start looking out for each other's interests, because they are all connected, and what's bad for one half will probably end up being bad for the other.

People who say that PC subpaths should all be disbanded because they're complete wastes of time: What if NPC subpaths were disbanded instead in an effort to reignite an interest in roleplaying? People who say that the schedule needs more bloodlusts and carnages: What if the elixir side came out with a more convincing argument, and you ended up with even less riches than you started out with? Oh, and I just have to get this one off my chest--people who complained about the Santa M'hul event: Seriously, you guys are just scum, get off the game please, go out into the real world, and learn how to have some freaking gratitude for those who wasted literal HOURS of their lives on you ungrateful "ants" with no compensation other than presents from Santa M'hul--the same as everyone else got. Some of the helpers didn't even get presents.

When you go to a subpath or clan event, THANK the hosts for taking out the time to actually hold the event! Be polite, be courteous, don't make a fool of yourself. Those who do things for you are doing it out of the kindness of their own hearts; you don't get paid for working in an online game. Thank your elders, thank your guides, thank your clan council--because you have no IDEA how much BS they put up with just to make this place better for everyone else.

If you want to play point counterpoint and argue with that, fine, but I'm not changing my opinion: Having a positive attitude will get you a lot farther than a negative one. No, I'm not naive, I'm not being ignorant, I'm not pretending not to see the problems and corruption that unfold every day. I am just sending out a general message of "Thank you" rather than one of "Screw you," 'cause that's just who I am.

Yes, peoples' attitudes may be shifting because of a lack of effort on KRU's part. However, KRU's faults are not what force people to act like complete jerks. You can't blame that kind of thing on someone else, especially a game company--people have the ability to consciously control their actions and reactions, to be able to put a filter on what they say, to be able to think situations through and thank those who deserve it before opening their mouths to say, "This isn't good enough."
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post Jul 29 2006, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Engell @ Jul 29 2006, 10:40 AM) [snapback]5315[/snapback]

Most of the problems that occur can be fixed but automation, but thus everyone would quit because thier lust for the controlling of everyone would be gone. Elders, Hosts, Primo's.


Uh, how would making everything automated help?
Well, really my question is how can you automate Elders/Primos/Hosts?
I supposed for Elder, you would take votes from the entire guild about who should be the next Elder? But then you have people doing more of a popularity contest.. so then you end up with the same situation: whoever is the most popular person in the Guild becomes Elder.
How is that different than current Elders giving it to their friends? ;p

I just do not think there's a perfect system anywhere that completely prevents corruption.


Anyway... I think that is the major problem. But, as Todaka has said, it varies. And really, people complaining about it doesn't help the situation.
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post Jul 29 2006, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Laren @ Jul 29 2006, 11:18 AM) [snapback]5340[/snapback]

Kru has been in power for over a year now. In that time we have had one large client change, which Nexon had already been preparing, three events--one large RP, one very buggy and poorly planned lost mines, and one mongol invasion--two or three small occurrences, like the ball or Yuri's death, and not much else. It is definitely -not- too early to blame Kru, considering things have continued to go down hill since Kru took power, and things are as slow-paced now as they ever were under Eldridge. There should always be at least one good-sized event per Nexus year. And it's really not that hard to do. They did it back in beta when we weren't even paying them, and they managed it with a staff of similar size under Kismet.

I don't think Kru is solely responsible for the problems with the game... some of the players it trusts to be volunteers are causing problems, too. But largely, it is Kru's fault, and if it's too soon now to blame them, then when can we?


KRU is the same company as NEXON was; minus Eldridge and a few other staff members.
KRU is ran by the same person as NEXON was-- Wony.

The name change was only done because of legal reasons-- no longer a subsidary of NEXON Korea.

So, it isnt that things went downhill when KRU took over-- its that Nexus has been going downhill, and the only reason its not dead is because they've figured out how to survive on the subscriptions of the 1k people who keep hoping the game will get better when it isnt.


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post Jul 29 2006, 09:09 PM
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Well, I guess if KRU ever goes under everyone that quit because everything was so terrible, can just laugh at the rest of us that enjoyed our time and say "Told you so".


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I love how the majority of votes has gone to "The Majority of the community"

Anyway. The main problem with Nexus? People. People that troll this site complaining about what they think is wrong with the game, to be more specific.


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post Jul 29 2006, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Songa @ Jul 29 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]5369[/snapback]

Uh, how would making everything automated help?
Well, really my question is how can you automate Elders/Primos/Hosts?
I supposed for Elder, you would take votes from the entire guild about who should be the next Elder? But then you have people doing more of a popularity contest.. so then you end up with the same situation: whoever is the most popular person in the Guild becomes Elder.
How is that different than current Elders giving it to their friends? ;p

I just do not think there's a perfect system anywhere that completely prevents corruption.
Anyway... I think that is the major problem. But, as Todaka has said, it varies. And really, people complaining about it doesn't help the situation.


oh sorry, I kept that same rant. I meant automate carnages bloodlusts all that, same with pathes completely.
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