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How good are Riches?
Best they ever been! [ 1 ] ** [5.00%]
Team balancing is okay [ 6 ] ** [30.00%]
Teams are awful! [ 5 ] ** [25.00%]
Hosting is awful! [ 2 ] ** [10.00%]
Riches overall are awful! [ 6 ] ** [30.00%]
How good are elixirs?
Best they ever been! [ 1 ] ** [5.00%]
Team balancing is okay [ 8 ] ** [40.00%]
Teams are awful! [ 4 ] ** [20.00%]
Hosting is awful! [ 2 ] ** [10.00%]
Elixirs overall are awful! [ 5 ] ** [25.00%]
How are Bloodlusts?
Best they ever been! [ 1 ] ** [5.00%]
Team Balancing is okay [ 8 ] ** [40.00%]
Teams are awful! [ 5 ] ** [25.00%]
Hosting is awful! [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Bloodlust overall are awful! [ 6 ] ** [30.00%]
How are fox hunts?
Best they ever been! [ 12 ] ** [60.00%]
Hosting is awful [ 4 ] ** [20.00%]
Fox hunts overall are awful [ 4 ] ** [20.00%]
Carnage staff (division heads/head)
Very helpful and Professional! [ 3 ] ** [15.00%]
They are nice [ 4 ] ** [20.00%]
Meh.. I dont interact so I dont care. [ 4 ] ** [20.00%]
Pretty stuck up and dont know what they are doing [ 4 ] ** [20.00%]
Dont care at all in what players think/want. [ 5 ] ** [25.00%]
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solman
post Oct 1 2010, 04:29 PM
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For myself its not just team balancing/picking teams. Its overall host performances. How they inforce rules, how they influence rounds. Are doors open on time? Other various situations and so forth is what im actually more worried about. You can be a bad host in team picking but be very good at hosting. Overall however, I dont see to many hosts who are professional enough to handle the job. There are a few though.


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Destyn
post Oct 1 2010, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (solman @ Oct 1 2010, 04:29 PM) *
For myself its not just team balancing/picking teams. Its overall host performances. How they inforce rules, how they influence rounds. Are doors open on time? Other various situations and so forth is what im actually more worried about. You can be a bad host in team picking but be very good at hosting. Overall however, I dont see to many hosts who are professional enough to handle the job. There are a few though.


I completely disagree with this. I would MUCH rather have an event that is 15 minutes late and has good teams which makes the event fun as opposed to having them on time be discreet and great and have [Content removed]ty teams. I'm sorry but I don't goto these events to have an enjoyable conversation with the host..I go to have fun and PK.

Being on time may be what matters to you, but having fun in the actual event is what's important to me.


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solman
post Oct 2 2010, 12:59 AM
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I wasnt really saying just talking with the hosts. Im saying their overall professionalism. Which covers everything from being on time, reliable, how they enforce rules if they have to, how smooth an event runs in general. All the little things that goes into making an event other then team picking. As a former host one of the biggest host rules for myself I always made sure to follow as best as I can was, "Always seem un-noticed in rounds and be as of little influence during a round as absolutely possible." If a host has to enforce a rule or does something in general that affects the round dramatically or the event as a whole, a host should not do it. Period, no if ands or butts about it. I know that seems weird to most people but theres a logically theory behind it. That being any punishments or anything you need to do can always be done after the round or after the event. The only time should a host ever "effect" an outcome during a round is if there is a blatent rule breaker that is disrupting a round so greatly, that they have to be removed. Minor stuff and so forth slide until after the round or event and delt with seperately. Again I cant stress it enough, a host should have little to no influence during an event while in progress after the rounds begin. This takes away from all team and player experiences.

That was always my personal rule. As a host I let a ton of the minor stuff slide, but if I had to I have issued bans in the past. I always felt that carnage events in general are for the public and hosts are there "for the public". It ruins the fun and experience of events when a host has to get involved in anything.

Team picking on the other hand is an iffy subject with me. I always was able to figure out how to pick good teams around a 95%+ success rate in having them go all rounds and being pretty fair. But I was also a host who took requests and did matchups most hosts wouldnt touch and balance it that way. But I have no objection for hosts asking players for advice if needed. However the best teams being picked Ive noticed is when less people comment on them. You get to many hands in the cookie jar sort of speak, and all is lost. But team picking is 2nd in a hosts duty as a host. First being remain fair and as impartial as possible. I just dont see that from hosts now a days from the events I went to.


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LEET
post Oct 2 2010, 12:21 PM
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The carnage system will never be perfect due to the failure of human memory. Unless the Auto dye system gets AI... the system will always suck.

A great host will always only do good sometimes. Sorry, humans are not perfect, but we can create something near perfect leaning towards perfection.

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Mutilation
post Oct 3 2010, 02:28 PM
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Reading the Forums in combination with various RT posts about the Carnage system, I compiled a list of -active- hosts in each of the PK divisions from the list on NexusTK. Not going to make any comments on any of the hosts for the sake of following Forum rules and avoiding antagonism, but I figured people might be interested.

Bloodlust:

Archileo
Arthias
Inflamed
Scytherz
Sniddster
Timishu
Restored
Yank
Xthunderx
Zanna

Riches:
Drfeelgreat
Nobu
Rebelmagic
Valkie
Zylon

Let me know if any active -scheduled- PK hosts are missing.


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Kiel
post Oct 4 2010, 02:37 PM
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i made the carnage staff. that says something. just saying. but wait....i think i made tutor too! hmmmm.....wth?!


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solman
post Oct 5 2010, 02:01 AM
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You "made" the carnage staff or were "on" the carnage staff? tongue.gif Cause if your responsible for hiring some of those people.. ugh lol


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Destyn
post Oct 6 2010, 04:47 PM
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Carnage staff now is just awful. Most of them would rank someone like babyaqua over someone like pebbles just because of the sheer fact that one is stronger than the other.


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solman
post Nov 8 2010, 08:36 PM
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Ive been trying to be more proactive in helping things change. But I dont even think the carnage archon cares much. Maybe its just me.. To many things need to change in my view with carnage department.


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