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post Jun 25 2009, 03:40 AM
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I remember back for the longest time, even after Nexus Atlas went up, you still had to go to the RPG Planet site to get the walk-through for the Nagnang Armory quest.


It's finally on NA, but I still like the RPG Planet version better.


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post Jun 25 2009, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (Brant @ Jun 25 2009, 02:40 AM) *
I remember back for the longest time, even after Nexus Atlas went up, you still had to go to the RPG Planet site to get the walk-through for the Nagnang Armory quest.


It's finally on NA, but I still like the RPG Planet version better.


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Nexus Atlas kinda sucked before Allygator (and someone else I don't recall) actually started updating the databases. Nexus Network remained a much better resource (aside from maps) long after it 'shut down'.


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post Jun 25 2009, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Dritz @ Jun 25 2009, 12:53 PM) *
Nexus Atlas kinda sucked before Allygator (and someone else I don't recall) actually started updating the databases. Nexus Network remained a much better resource (aside from maps) long after it 'shut down'.


True, but Nexus Atlas was not intended to be Nexus Network and Nexus Network was still being run for quite awhile when Nexus Atlas came around. Just that the site was much more advanced at the time and started to post news/event info/item info and it just went on from there. Not that the map work wasn't cool and a great resource, but it was kind of useless without all the information that came along later.


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post Jun 25 2009, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (Dritz @ Jun 25 2009, 01:53 PM) *
Nexus Atlas kinda sucked before Allygator (and someone else I don't recall) actually started updating the databases. Nexus Network remained a much better resource (aside from maps) long after it 'shut down'.

Ya, its purpose was just for maps, hence the name Nexus ATLAS tongue.gif


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post Jun 25 2009, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (Bobert @ Jun 25 2009, 01:28 PM) *
Ya, its purpose was just for maps, hence the name Nexus ATLAS tongue.gif


Then why didn't they have a logo something like this:




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post Jun 25 2009, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Bobert @ Jun 25 2009, 12:28 PM) *
Ya, its purpose was just for maps, hence the name Nexus ATLAS tongue.gif


One day Nexus Atlas turned it's attention to being an information resource for Nexus. For some reason TSWulf didn't want to just transfer over the Nexus Network stuff even though he pretty much owned it (at least the stuff that was on there before he left). So when it changed focus it sucked compared to Nexus Network as an information resource. Couple months later (or shorter don't remember but it was pretty quick) Nexus Network shut down, I'm not really sure why. For years after Nexus Atlas (in my opinion) still did not match up with Nexus Network.

So yes I understand the word Atlas but long after NA became a general site I personally feel they sucked at it.


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post Jun 25 2009, 03:28 PM
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I remember finding out about NA a few weeks after I was added to the NN staff. I was so excited to get on NN staff too lol


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post Jun 25 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Bobert @ Jun 25 2009, 12:28 PM) *
Ya, its purpose was just for maps, hence the name Nexus ATLAS tongue.gif
QUOTE (Dritz @ Jun 25 2009, 02:07 PM) *
So yes I understand the word Atlas but long after NA became a general site I personally feel they sucked at it.

As far as I know, regarding the word 'Atlas', it was not meant to be used in the context of being a book of maps, but instead in the context of being a book of information or reference/guide book; synonymous with 'encyclopedia' or 'almanac'.


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post Jun 25 2009, 08:02 PM
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Maybe (in that case I apparently didn't know what Atlas meant heh) but when NA first came along it was repeated over and over again that it would be just for maps.


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post Jun 26 2009, 09:02 AM
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I'm pretty sure the original intent was for the maps. That's why Nexus Network was being referenced for so long, as it held the majority of the statistical information.


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post Jun 26 2009, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (Brant @ Jun 25 2009, 02:57 PM) *
Then why didn't they have a logo something like this:




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I don't know, someone on the Staff want to answer this laugh.gif


QUOTE (Dritz @ Jun 25 2009, 09:02 PM) *
Maybe (in that case I apparently didn't know what Atlas meant heh) but when NA first came along it was repeated over and over again that it would be just for maps.

Ya, I guess I didn't know either Hah


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post Jun 26 2009, 10:30 AM
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When NA came out, it was because TSWolf had stopped working on Nexus Network, and handed it over to Marstead and other people. He still wanted to do something, so originally, Nexus Atlas WAS an atlas, along with historical information.

After NexNet shut down, somewhere along the line, some of the old NexNet staffers ended up coming over to NA and helping out with various projects, eventually making NA more of NexNet with maps.


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post Jun 26 2009, 12:22 PM
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Was a long time ago so I suppose I could be off. But I am like 99.99% certain NA tried to get into the general information game before Nexus Network shutdown. To bad their ain't a record of what went on since it was pretty crazy.


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post Jun 26 2009, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (Dritz @ Jun 26 2009, 01:22 PM) *
Was a long time ago so I suppose I could be off. But I am like 99.99% certain NA tried to get into the general information game before Nexus Network shutdown. To bad their ain't a record of what went on since it was pretty crazy.

Actually if you really wanted to know, pull up the internet archive for both sites and compare them.


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post Jun 26 2009, 02:42 PM
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As with everything in Nexus I think there was some behind the scenes drama that you wouldn't get from reading the front pages.


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post Jun 26 2009, 09:28 PM
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I'm perrty sure NA aimed to be an information and knowledge database from the beginning, i.e. a one-stop-shop, but since most of the item/spell/quest information was still up on Nexus Network, that aspect was merely low on their priority list.

Anyways, who cares?


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post Jun 26 2009, 09:53 PM
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post Jun 27 2009, 05:24 AM
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ALERT: Random Information about Nexus Atlas

NN was before my time so I don't know if there was anything going on behind the scene. I do know that most of the NN staff also worked on NA. When I started work on NA four or five years ago, it was strictly to do maps. I had made Vortex maps and posted them on Heavens Clan site. Someone at NA noticed them and that's how I wound up here. Being the OCD type, I started to do other stuff as well. Almost a year before we revamped the site to the new look and feel (neona), I was very much involved with the coding and changes for that. Once that was done, I sort of picked up adding and editing content for everything.

TSWulf and Marstead gave me permission to republish anything that was on NN. I thought I'd done that. If there's something I haven't duplicated on Nexus Atlas please let me know.

I used to be more creative about writing up quests and stuff but in the past year I've lost the ability to write in RP form. That's why I rarely post news anymore. Nexus Atlas was always intended to be a full source for everything about the game not just the maps. If there is anything we are missing, you should let us know. There's a section in the forums just for that. You can also contact any staff member with suggestions. All of the staff want this to have everything you need for any situation.

Some staffers just work on certain areas. Musoyen updated all of the information for the Mythic maps. The clan and subpath sections were started and maintained by Vini until he graduated and got a job. Rachel was almost solely responsible for maintaining the old database for armor, monsters and spells. That information has been moved to mySQL to make it easier for queries. Icespadez did a lot of scripting which made combining information nice. LordAchoo has taken that over as a sometime thing. Yttribium has moved his calculators to this site but I can't manage to fit them into our format (it breaks his scripts). Yttribium has recently gotten access to mySQL and is updating stats there; his knowledge of spells and weapons damage is phenomenal! AkiKan has joined the staff recently and done an enormous amount of work. He started with the picture of the day but that died when submissions dried up. He's gathered most of the graphics for Sa san spells along with the information for them. He's made maps for the SoE quest along with others but I haven't had the time to code the pages yet. He's also become a reporter; the most active one. He started a chat room but the staff vetoed that idea. He and I have made maps of all of the areas so we can make the carnage section more informative. Again I haven't had time to code those pages. I'm sure others have contributed in the past but it was before my time.

So if you want to make suggestions let me know. If you can volunteer some time to provide information or write html please let me know. We can always use folks to proofread and find errors. If you want access to the site to edit yourself, then you'll have to prove you have the ability and time. You'll also have to prove you can be trusted and have the maturity to handle the job.
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post Jun 27 2009, 01:30 PM
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Ok not to beat this into the ground but I gotta prove that I ain't crazy and go back to being silent. I was a little off before NA was not originally supposed to be just for maps, it was just for maps and history. Well this is what people were told anyways (more on that later) I come with proof this time honestly:

Old NA FAQ

One thing that is interesting on that page is that NA was not going to do 5.x maps for quite awhile:

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We wish to first accomplish every possible thing we can with 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x. This task alone will take years upon years of research, information gathering, and tons of editing. We also feel that the current version of Nexus no longer accurately reflects the Nexus we all came to know and love, but one that's more interested in the commercial aspect of the Nexon company.


This next quote kinda says that they might provide some other information but not for the then current 5.x client:

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In no means is our intended purpose to destroy other Nexus sites. Our goal is provide you with as much atlas and history information as we can. This is one of the most massive information projects ever launched on the Nexus TK game. We will definatly tread into territory the other sites have covered. But they have the advantage of providing up to date 5.0 information, which we will NOT tread on. We fully support those sites in their task and hope they will feel the same way for us.


Here is a look at Nexus Network around the same time. Near the bottom of the page is an announcement for the opening of NA and another announcement about the co-operation between NN and NA to create what would then be the first go around for Nexus Forums. Speaking of Nexus Forums



Here is where NN gets into the current information game. So it was three months that NA was holding the 'We are just a map and history site' flag. Here is an interesting quote that proves me wrong about TS's original intent but as said at the beginning of this post, the site was originally presented as a map and history site even if TS had a hidden agenda.

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Nexus Atlas is taking on the role that NexNet left behind this day one year ago. One year ago today, TSWolf.com came to an abrupt end after an extreme war in their IRC Chatroom revealed how half the staff was acting. This time, after a year of planning, we're ready to give it another go. While we conquered in the areas of History and Maps, we decided we needed to do more to help nexus.


The Death of Nexus Network

/\ This really sucks between the last link I posted from NN and this one I remember a lot of stuff going on. What's worse is that note does not have a date on it.

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post Jun 27 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Jun 25 2009, 03:52 PM) *
As far as I know, regarding the word 'Atlas', it was not meant to be used in the context of being a book of maps, but instead in the context of being a book of information or reference/guide book; synonymous with 'encyclopedia' or 'almanac'.
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I'm perrty sure NA aimed to be an information and knowledge database from the beginning, i.e. a one-stop-shop, but since most of the item/spell/quest information was still up on Nexus Network, that aspect was merely low on their priority list.


I stand corrected.


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