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post Nov 23 2008, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Darken @ Nov 23 2008, 06:56 PM) *
Halbarad, get off your soapbox.

Not for Gobiin's sake, but because you make curt and stupid generalizations that nobody wants to hear. Sure he's a sketchy case, but barbarians have been lol for years. Most of the time I'm expecting to hear "HURR LET ME CUT YOU AND PUSH YOU" as opposed to the ridiculous crap they think is so clever to say.

Edit: Also, it is true that I wanted Ledrian to lead the path and not RR. I did take into account his age, but when the opportunity sprung up he did what I did, be nice and genial to everyone to garner votes. Unfortunately, I don't know how much of a difference it would've mattered now, though.


Did I not get attention on the issue?


SilentNights was probably the most deserving Barbarian. He doesnt succumb to the General stereotypical barbarian RP and he is a great member within the community. But who becomes elder? Gobiin/Elancia, who was gone for ~4 yuris (~6months), and has had continuous gaps/breaks from the game all throughout (usually once ~5-7 yuris he's gone for 4-6), and he went up the ladder faster than someone even becomes a barbarian, faster than someone even gets accepted as a pup.
I made stupid generalizations in my first post, tell me what I did after that

RR was what began the Ranger transition to what it became today. I'd rather take my chances with Ledrian leading the path back then, because then there owuldnt have been the introduction of the

Promote Elder Friend circle { RougeRider, TinaDragon, RiaDora, Mallard, MysticSeeker }
Now, Mallard was 100% deserving, but these other people? Let's be serious.

Making Gobiin elder just dug barbs into a deeper hole, simply, Winder should not have been allowed to choose his successor after pulling that crap with Orion... then maybe someone deserving would be in their rightful place.

This whole shabang just proves that in this game working hard most of the time will get you nowhere when a human being who lets emotion>logic takes the helm.
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (Halbarad @ Nov 23 2008, 09:52 PM) *
Promote Elder Friend circle { RougeRider, TinaDragon, RiaDora, Mallard, MysticSeeker }
Now, Mallard was 100% deserving, but these other people? Let's be serious.



Wasn't Mallard banned for character sharing though? Or was that someone else?


I thought TinaDragon was a good elder...?
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (theSavior @ Nov 23 2008, 03:39 PM) *
Barbarian roleplay 101:

1) Fart/belch as much as possible.
2) If you can refer to yourself in the 3rd person, take the opportunity!
3) Leave out a word every so often, especially "a", "to", "is", etc. Example: "Ghengis Khan would like to hunt." becomes "Ghengis Khan hunt."
4) If someone brings up a point that makes more sense than yours, push them.
4.2) If they continue to outsmart you, try and slay them, then push their dead ghost.
4.3) If they are now laughing at your "kill and push" "roleplay" technique, call a guide to boot them ASAP.
4.3.1) Make sure you call them a Townie before they're removed!!!
5) Make sure to always carry at least 100 scrap meat on you- never know when you may be at the Palace!


~theSavior

I do respect SilentNights though, he's truly one of the last remaining Barbarians.


I lol'd. I was gunna tear you a new one for all that, then I read at the bottom it didn't apply to me so....yeah. On to the matter at hand. While yes, those sort of things do happen (how regularly is unknown to me) I used to do some of that stuff too, except the part of leaving out words. Many of real life history's greatest Barbarians were highly educated people for education standards at the time, and as I developed my character I saw no reason to act like a dumb brute. In fact, when training pups, I require them to atleast sound intelligent otherwise I drop them outright. Also, I hardly have ever used the term townie, my insults are more clever than that. But its true, the word is stunningly overused and is, more often than not, used incorrectly. Its become a safety net insult, something it was never designed to be. -shrugs-

QUOTE (AceoStar @ Nov 23 2008, 04:25 PM) *
here here


Flattery will get you nowhere =P

QUOTE (Halbarad @ Nov 23 2008, 06:52 PM) *
Did I not get attention on the issue?


SilentNights was probably the most deserving Barbarian. He doesnt succumb to the General stereotypical barbarian RP and he is a great member within the community. But who becomes elder? Gobiin/Elancia, who was gone for ~4 yuris (~6months), and has had continuous gaps/breaks from the game all throughout (usually once ~5-7 yuris he's gone for 4-6), and he went up the ladder faster than someone even becomes a barbarian, faster than someone even gets accepted as a pup.

Making Gobiin elder just dug barbs into a deeper hole, simply, Winder should not have been allowed to choose his successor after pulling that crap with Orion... then maybe someone deserving would be in their rightful place.

This whole shabang just proves that in this game working hard most of the time will get you nowhere when a human being who lets emotion>logic takes the helm.


I won't comment about the change in eldership because, quite frankly, Im rather tired of it. Picking a new elder sucks horribly. There's hardly ever one, good, solid choice for an elder to choose, and for the record, those thinking I was the perfect or the best choice to be elder, you could very well be wrong in doing so, I have my flaws in game (which are largely based on my views of the way the game is ran). In fact, it was commented to me shortly after all the eldership thing began, that were I actually made elder that day, it wouldn't have lasted a week before Mug would have removed me, which would be likely.
As for Gobiin's inactivity. That was something beyond anyone's control and could not be avoided. More to the point, Gobiin is not the only guide in our path to take extensive periods of inactivity. I, myself, have gone on vaccation for 6 months, 9 months, 3 months, and another 3 months. Each time remaining or gaining guide back. So it's unfair to be critical of one guide/elder and not the others who have done the same.

Just my thoughts

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post Nov 23 2008, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (Halbarad @ Nov 23 2008, 08:52 PM) *
RR was what began the Ranger transition to what it became today. I'd rather take my chances with Ledrian leading the path back then, because then there owuldnt have been the introduction of the

Promote Elder Friend circle { RougeRider, TinaDragon, RiaDora, Mallard, MysticSeeker }
Now, Mallard was 100% deserving, but these other people? Let's be serious.


RougeRider had nothing to do with passing Eldership on to friends. RougeRider hates RiaDora just as much as everyone else. TinaDragon WAS a good Elder, no question about that. Of course after she handed Elder to RiaDora (because she knows her IRL) things got bad, but it wasn't because of RougeRider.

As long as I've known the guy (which is about 7 years IRL now), he's always been, and still is, one of the most mature players in Nexus. It's kind of funny how someone like RougeRider, who is quiet in the community has been bloodbrothered to someone like me, who is extremely outspoken in the community for almost 7 years now.

We actually get along really well, and if anything, that just proves I can be dealt with.


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post Nov 24 2008, 05:36 AM
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Holy batman's shoes people. When did Warrior Tutor get to be such a prestigious position of 'high ranking'?! You volunteer to teach people (Which a good portion of the community NEVER go to) You do more paperwork. Big flippin deal.

Gobiin does know how to be a warrior, he does know how to PK, quit crucifying the fellow for 1) BEING QUIET 2) Deciding to do his OWN RP.

It doesn't mean he's unintelligent.

Not everyone is ever happy with an Elder change, it's a fact of life. I'm sure some people hated me getting Elder. It's how the ball rolls in Nexus. You can never make everyone happy.

But for christ's sake Halbarad get over the fact you got EoB.

And SN has very nicely stated it, quit harping on the fact he took an extended vacation from Nexus, when a good portion of the other Barbs guides have ALL done so, INCLUDING SN. Each of the guides has good qualities, and bad.

And Brant, just minor, things make a lot more sense now. (*Didn't know who you were tongue.gif*)

As for RiaDora's decisions as Elders:
Mallard had IRL things to take care of
MysticSeeker, do not..get me started, he made the first 3 months of my eldership hell.
Gallum ended up banned and removed from Elder.

I'm sure there's someone qualified, sometimes it's a matter of letting go of the responsibilities and realizing everything is going to change and it may be for the better or worse. You just have to let whatever happens rest on the current elder's shoulders instead of taking it upon yourself. And NO matter what, you will be blamed for making someone Elder, or their successor because you gave it to the person before. You're screwed no matter what you do. Even if you took a pathvote.


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post Nov 24 2008, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (BeffyCabeza @ Nov 24 2008, 04:36 AM) *
Holy batman's shoes people. When did Warrior Tutor get to be such a prestigious position of 'high ranking'?! You volunteer to teach people (Which a good portion of the community NEVER go to) You do more paperwork. Big flippin deal.

Gobiin does know how to be a warrior, he does know how to PK, quit crucifying the fellow for 1) BEING QUIET 2) Deciding to do his OWN RP.

It doesn't mean he's unintelligent.


I think what some people are getting at is -- When you're a tutor, it would seem though you would at least try to be social with the community. Some people think, and I would agree, that there will be plenty of questions that Gobiin could be asked and not know the answer to. But I guess that goes the same for most tutors -- more and less with some. His basic fundamental knowledge of the warrior path will get him a long way, but he will notice that he has a lot of catching up to do before he'll be able to answer many of the questions the community might have. (Ex: About recent event items, recent path additions, etc.)

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And Brant, just minor, things make a lot more sense now. (*Didn't know who you were tongue.gif*)


I had nothing to do with *THAT*
Although I did have someone yapping my ear about it the whole time.
And all I have is one word -- Diversification.

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post Nov 24 2008, 05:23 PM
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Since when has Tutor been considered a position of power?? unsure.gif


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post Nov 24 2008, 05:58 PM
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Since Ixeus used the npc bug to kill everyone outside the tutor hall tongue.gif But I think they fixed that so it can't happen again.


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post Nov 24 2008, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Nov 22 2008, 10:53 PM) *
You know, doesn't anyone else think the person most popular is usually popular because they earned that popularity by doing something right? tongue.gif

Sure, sometimes it can go badly if someone is deceptive and makes promises they don't intend to keep, but that is usually rare and can go south on an Elder. When people can choose their own leaders, they feel they can decide to no longer follow that leader if they do not fulfill the terms of the agreement.

So... what Colour is the sky in your world?


Falaris, I believe, said something that can summarize this thread; and it goes something like this: "It's about people who have no power wanting to believe that their opinion matters."
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post Nov 25 2008, 10:52 AM
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Forget all these barbies today! Where my boi LocoSam and DarkBrood at!? Za Sheep Man~!

...never mind that I havent played Nexus in a while.

Oh and tutors are important and is a power position now? Wha? Things sure changed alot after not playing for 2 month.


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post Nov 25 2008, 12:07 PM
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No she is very nice she just has a super quick temper because of stress then it cools off in 5 minutes.


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post Nov 25 2008, 12:39 PM
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What I dislike most about RiaDora as elder is that she is and has always been too content with staying the same. As the game evolves, so should the paths. That's NEVER happened in the Rangers for as long as RiaDora has been elder. However, that goes hand in hand on why she keeps being put back by the gamemasters. She's STABLE; they know what they're going to get.

I can name plenty of Barbarians who don't follow those stereotypes, but none of them play anymore smile.gif. Myself included.

On topic:

I don't necessarily agree with a Barbarian Elder having jobs outside of the path. I think they should be dedicated to just their path. On that note, I don't see how that loses merit. Truth is, if someone was meant to be Tutor instead of Gobiin, they would have been given the position smile.gif!

Oh, and unless you can outperform Gobiin in being a Barbarian Elder and Warrior Tutor (and be capable of proving it), shut up smile.gif!

Now, I'm done.


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post Nov 25 2008, 12:44 PM
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No path can evolve with an anti-roleplay community.


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Imagine there is an Elder with plenty ideas for the path, and imagine that he doesn't RP... I want to say, we don't care.
As long as the path evolves, and as soon as the guides and the walkers are motivated enough to uphold and to promote the path's RP, then it'd be great. Of course the elder would still need to RP, but not as much as guides do.
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post Nov 25 2008, 03:39 PM
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Darken: You can ask halbarad in game why he left and why others did too, I'm sure he will tell you.

Post about paths evolving in anti rp comm: Lots of people want to rp, lots of people do rp, its just up to the SPs to make it fun/enjoyable on the 1st level, clans/etc do it on another one.
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post Nov 25 2008, 03:48 PM
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Wow guys, you're all wrong. Gobiin isn't the warrior tutor. Get your facts straight before you flame.

He's a Tangun tutor, talking to new players and answering questions about stuff like how to leave Tangun, where to get ambers and snake meat, and how to take a screenshot.


Is anyone still jealous?



Btw, warrior tutors are Shindanmusan (Buya), KoyaSoto (Kugnae) and AznCloudBoi (Nagnang).
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post Nov 25 2008, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (Nussan @ Nov 25 2008, 03:48 PM) *
Wow guys, you're all wrong. Gobiin isn't the warrior tutor. Get your facts straight before you flame.

He's a Tangun tutor, talking to new players and answering questions about stuff like how to leave Tangun, where to get ambers and snake meat, and how to take a screenshot.


Is anyone still jealous?



Btw, warrior tutors are Shindanmusan (Buya), KoyaSoto (Kugnae) and AznCloudBoi (Nagnang).


What? I asked you two weeks ago when can I apply AGAIN for Tangun Tutor (because the last person you chose quit right after..), and you told me I had to wait until applications for Tangun Tutor are open again..? Now i'm a little mad. I have to wait but Gobiin doesn't? I've never even SEEN Gobiin in Tangun. Yet I am always in Tangun helping new people, helping people with quests and items and showing them around but I am skipped over.

+1 for Gobiin for not having to wait and apply like everyone else.
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post Nov 25 2008, 04:36 PM
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It's because you're annoying and naggy.


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post Nov 25 2008, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (Doctor @ Nov 25 2008, 04:36 PM) *
It's because you're annoying and naggy.


Haha maybe on the forums but thats because this is the only place to discuss things without being threatened to be banned. Shouldn't you be busy typing up another retarded post about how your hero RiaDora is the best thing to happen to Nexus?
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post Nov 25 2008, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (Musoyan @ Nov 25 2008, 04:44 PM) *
Haha maybe on the forums but thats because this is the only place to discuss things without being threatened to be banned. Shouldn't you be busy typing up another retarded post about how your hero RiaDora is the best thing to happen to Nexus?


To be honest, you are annoying on nexus too. You freak out for no reason sometimes (And I have only seen you speak like 5 times ever, 2 of which you were spazzing on someone about something) and a Tangun tutor should not have such a temper problem.

P.S. DON'T GET MAD!


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