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post Mar 13 2007, 03:18 PM
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This isn't really a statistic/forumla for the game, but I feel this information may be useful for people, so it's why I'm posting it.

I decided to make this simply because I'm on a goal to raise enough money for a Sun war platemail (just a personal goal of mine) and I wanted to know how fast I could make money. Also, people have told me that woodcutting is the fastest way to make money, which I know is far from true (at least at this point).

Here's some information about my woodcutting. I am a Talented woodcutter.

It took me 14 minutes and 34 seconds to get 30 Ginko wood. This time dose not include the walk it takes to get to a grove and to step in front of a tree.

Increments of Ginko wood recieved per tree:
4, 4, 2, 6, 2, 4, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1
Total trees cut: 12
Times axes broke: 4 (replaced it within a couple seconds)
Number of "whacks": 15

If it takes me 14:34 to get 30 ginko wood, how much time will it take to get 1000:
1000 / 30 = 33 (the number of trips it will take if I always got 30 wood)
33 x 14.34 = 473 minutes, 22 seconds
473.22 / 60 (to get hours) = 7 to 8 hours.*

* Once again, time does not include the walk to a grove/to a tree.
I'm well aware that the ginko wood times will ALWAYS vary. It doesnt always take 12 trees, I don't always lose that many axes, etc. This is a mere (and IMHO fair) time for how long it takes.

If I sold 1000 Ginko wood at...
400k: 400 / 30 = 13k worth of Ginko wood per trip
450k: 450 / 30 = 15k worth of Ginko wood per trip

7 to 8 hours JUST for a measly 400-450k. I tried something else: amber hunting in Rabbit2.




Some information about my Rabbit2 amber hunting:
- I go R3 with a base mana of 9.6k, and the following equipment: Plasmic substratum, 2 99 Red boots, Substratum headpiece. (9.6k + 3.5k + 4k + 1k = 18.1k mana)
- I ONLY use Plasmic substratum to get to R3, otherwise this is my equipment:
Weapon: Enchanted spike
Armor: Wind platemail
Helm: Substratum headpiece
Accessory: 2 Ambrosia
Sub-accessory: 2 99 Red boots
- Obviously, I'm a warrior, and I use Watchful eye to trigger all of the Rabbit ambushes I can

It takes me about one rage period (938 seconds or about 16 minutes) to get 100 Amber under the right circumstances (such as I'm the only person in the room, minimal lag). Once again, this doesnt factor in the time it takes to walk to Rabbit2.

16 minutes, so how long will it take to get 1000 amber:
1000 / 100 = 10 trips
10 x 16 = 160 minutes
160 / 60 (hours) = 2.6 hours

If I sold 1k Amber at:
350k: 350 / 10 = 35k per 100 amber
400k: 400 / 10 = 40k per 100 amber

16 minutes for 35k-40k worth of amber. Not only that, but I can get ten times that much in about 3 hours time. This is the FASTEST method of getting money that I know of. However..I don't do it that much because first of all:
- It's boring
- The circumstances aren't always perfect (I have lots of lag, and theres usually people in the rooms)
- Takes at least 1 Sonhi pipe to go to R3 (not that big of a deal but still)



As for Wool...

I recorded myself at 2 minutes and 40 seconds to get 25 Wool. To be perfectly fair, however, there are always going to be people in the sheep fields, there'll always be a lack of spawns, and I happened to get somewhat lucky with the amount of sheep I saw/killed. So, I will calculate my time at 3 minutes and 30 seconds instead.
Info:
- I have a wife who I use Love to in order to get to the center sheep field quickly (coords 105,97 or at least around this area)
- I'm using a PA with Flank/backstab
- I one-hit all sheep
- This is the sheep field in the Wilderness, NOT Woodlands (I didnt know there was a sheep field there D:)

For 1000 wool:
1000 / 25 = 40 trips
40 x 3.5 = 140 minutes
140 / 60 = 2.3 hours

Wool goes for 8k/25, but 1k usually goes for 360k, which is 9k per 25 wool (360 / 25).

Summing up:
13k/15k worth of Ginko wood per 14 minutes and 30 seconds
9k worth of Wool per 3 minutes and 30 seconds (technically 8k, but this counts if I was going to get 1k)
35-40k worth of Amber per 16 minutes

7-8 hours to get 1k Wood for 400-450k
2-3 hours to get 1k Wool for 360k
2-3 hours to get 1k Amber for 350-400k

Best way of getting money in this case is either gathering Wool or Amber.

Still going to calculate gathering Ore (I'm an Adept miner)

Feel free to correct my math. I'm horrible at it, and it shows.
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post Mar 15 2007, 06:12 AM
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The largest rabbit in all 3 levels of the cave runs. If you are max or near max you can kill them before they run. If you are a rogue you can either amnesia them or you can drain them when they run. Another reason why rogues and warriors are about equal in that cave.

I think you need to be an R5 and tons of vita before you tackle rabbit3. My R3 with 19k vita can handle Rabbit3 but only 1 at a time and chomping on livers. sad.gif


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