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> Would You Collectivley Buy Nexus?, How much would you "donate" for a bid?
Could the playerbase make an offer for Nexus?
How much would you "donate" for a bid?
$0 [ 8 ] ** [20.00%]
$10 [ 4 ] ** [10.00%]
$25 [ 3 ] ** [7.50%]
$50 [ 6 ] ** [15.00%]
$100 [ 6 ] ** [15.00%]
$200 [ 6 ] ** [15.00%]
$500+ (specify) [ 7 ] ** [17.50%]
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post Jul 26 2010, 04:01 PM
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With Nexus sucking it up-- it's prime for a takeover. How much would you be willing to contribute to buy Nexus, make it free to play etc? I'm just cuious what the total would be. Be honest with your estimates as it would be interesting to see if we took x offer to Kru and to see what they said.


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post Jul 26 2010, 04:09 PM
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Even if that somehow happened, someone would still have to be in charge of it.

And so, nobody will do it.


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post Jul 26 2010, 04:11 PM
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I'd be fine if Allygator did it, I think everyone here would be fine with that too. She could relegate duties etc.


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post Jul 26 2010, 05:14 PM
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10-50k depending.


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post Jul 26 2010, 05:23 PM
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I wouldn't be fine with Allygator to be the head of it. To be honest, I don't think she'd be in tune with the game mechanics and understand what players want enough to give some aspects of the game it's needed share of attention. Things she doesn't understand, she'd have no problem delegating, but then the issue arises over who she delegates to and how malleable her opinion is for who she ends up choosing.
No offense intended, of course, but that's just my opinion based on how much I know her over the forums.

I would not contribute money unless I had reason to believe that it will actually improve and change for the better. I'd want to either be a part of the project and enact on the game itself to make the changes I want to see, or I'd need to see evidence that the changes I want to see are in the right hands.

That being said, depending on the above variables, I'd donate any option of the polls and beyond.


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post Jul 26 2010, 05:43 PM
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I heard kru bought it for 1m


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post Jul 26 2010, 07:01 PM
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She's basically done with Nexus right now..

Even if something like this were to draw her back, I think she might want to work on the game but wouldn't want the responsibility of running it.


But also, I don't think someone would want to put up $50,000 if they don't get either a decent amount of voting power or think they might somehow profit off the game. And if you only have 1000 people putting up an equal $100, I'm not so sure that would be enough to get Kru's attention (Unless you somehow got pretty much everyone to stop registering)

Even then, you don't really know what kind of agreement there is between Kru and Nexon and if something like this would even be remotely possible. Or maybe they wouldn't be willing/able to sell the rights to Nexus, but they could sell the whole company, which would mean even more issues.



So depending on how it would work, statistics we don't know (Past and present registration and kruna sales), the total price of purchase, etc., I would have to say...somewhere between $1 and $5000?


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post Jul 26 2010, 07:24 PM
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$0. If the game does die 'in two years' let it die.


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post Jul 26 2010, 08:08 PM
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Company is worth $1 million...

As if anyone on these forums would want to pay nearly that much for control of the company.

Better question: Is this about Nexus or the whole company? I would suggest separating the poll into two for the reason that it seems Nexus is now accounting for less than 20% of Kru's net income.


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post Jul 26 2010, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (Alston @ Jul 26 2010, 07:08 PM) *
Better question: Is this about Nexus or the whole company? I would suggest separating the poll into two for the reason that it seems Nexus is now accounting for less than 20% of Kru's net income.


Nexus only. As in, the rights to buy Nexus from KRU.


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post Jul 26 2010, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (Alston @ Jul 26 2010, 08:08 PM) *


I'm sure NexusTK rakes in a sizable amount of cash, but I'd be extremely surprised if it's 1 million a year.

KRU would probably only sell it if it made more sense for them to sell it than to keep running it. I mean, they can run it on a skeleton crew like they are right now and still profit.

It'd probably be cheaper to just make your own game, and the engine and client would be capable of doing more since it doesn't have to support old code / databases.

That said, if someone wants to setup a fundraising project, well, I have a Kickstarter account and still have invites. I think anyone can also setup an IndieGoGo account but that's considerably more risky since the fund-raising goal doesn't have to be reached for IndieGoGo to charge donators.

With Kickstarter, if the full amount isn't reached nobody is charged.

There are several ways to allow people to vote on things. One way is to form a company and award voting stock to those who donate. Those with that stock can vote on every little decision the company makes, or they can vote to appoint / demote company officers who hold management positions (i.e. make the important decisions).

If such a thing happened I wouldn't be against contributing my game design knowledge, but I wouldn't be able to do that and handle the business management at the same time. Ultimately, anyone who would handle the business stuff shouldn't be the person making the gameplay decisions; not just because they are different skillsets, but because they are both very time consuming positions. Delegation would need to happen.

You'd also need to see if KRU is even willing to sell Nexus and what the price would be.


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post Jul 27 2010, 03:32 AM
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I can think of about 5 people who currently play nexustk that can run it good.

And 2 that can run it even better solo that are ex-players.
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post Jul 27 2010, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Jul 26 2010, 05:23 PM) *
I wouldn't be fine with Allygator to be the head of it. To be honest, I don't think she'd be in tune with the game mechanics and understand what players want enough to give some aspects of the game it's needed share of attention. Things she doesn't understand, she'd have no problem delegating, but then the issue arises over who she delegates to and how malleable her opinion is for who she ends up choosing.
No offense intended, of course, but that's just my opinion based on how much I know her over the forums.

I would not contribute money unless I had reason to believe that it will actually improve and change for the better. I'd want to either be a part of the project and enact on the game itself to make the changes I want to see, or I'd need to see evidence that the changes I want to see are in the right hands.

That being said, depending on the above variables, I'd donate any option of the polls and beyond.


Amen to that! I have never paid any attention to game mechanics and I never intend to. You'd be better off having Rachel do that job. And Rachel is correct. I'm on a Nexus vacation right now. lalalala haven't signed onto the game in nearly a month


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post Jul 27 2010, 03:53 PM
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You'd have to buy it from Chinchin and Tigertiger first.


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post Jul 27 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Jul 26 2010, 09:31 PM) *
I'm sure NexusTK rakes in a sizable amount of cash, but I'd be extremely surprised if it's 1 million a year.

It isn't. The company makes $1 million annually. That's all their games.

As I stated before, NexusTK probably accounts for less than 20% of that.


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post Jul 27 2010, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Jul 26 2010, 09:06 PM) *
Nexus only. As in, the rights to buy Nexus from KRU.

Then I'd do it for $50,000 - $100,000.

You need four people to run the game:

Someone excelling in logistics and politics (and most likely the bankroll),
Someone excelling in programming and efficiency (especially with MUD and C Coding),
Someone excelling in customer relations (HR, announcements, Accounts, etc), and
Someone excelling in economics (managing in-game inventory, economy and events)

Otherwise, whoever would buy the rights would tank.

And I don't think Kru has the right to sell their license. They'd have to get Nexon's permission first... not exactly sure the deal they worked out so I'm just speculating here.


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post Jul 27 2010, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (Alston @ Jul 27 2010, 04:26 PM) *
And I don't think Kru has the right to sell their license. They'd have to get Nexon's permission first... not exactly sure the deal they worked out so I'm just speculating here.


Contracts can be amended if both parties agree. The question is if they will.


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post Jul 27 2010, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Jul 27 2010, 02:34 PM) *
Contracts can be amended if both parties agree. The question is if they will.

Exactly.

Makes you wonder if Kru would be willing to let go of the game, considering how little it's contributing to profits.


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post Jul 28 2010, 05:33 PM
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I'd pay $200 for legitimate (appropriate percentage of stock purchased) ownership in Nexus.


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post Aug 2 2010, 12:19 AM
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if 1,000 of us pitched in $100 for it, we'd be able to collectively offer $100,000k. i'm sure kru makes more money than that from the game though. variable donations work best, though. i say we just donate money to [Content removed] and make that nexus the vision of what we want nexus to be. duh


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