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> Soe Quest Changes, Some minor differences between reality and the walkthru
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post Nov 21 2009, 05:15 PM
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There are some minor things missing from the current Walkthrough, likely because they've been added since the quest was initially created.

For instance, the Northern camp map has changed, so the route provided to the Rebel Ghost is not accurate (Also, standing near him will kill you, could be a good note to add)

Most importantly (or annoyingly), the walkthrough fails to mention that after you've been assigned to the northern camp (after the wine-serving business), the Ogre chef asks you for first a Meat scrap, then an Acorn, then Snake meat, and now Pork.

I've given up for the day, but I will continue to post these sorts of changes that I notice.


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post Nov 22 2009, 03:19 PM
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List of items requested by Ogre Chef:
-Meat scrap
-Acorn
-Snake meat
-Pork
-Fine snake meat
-Lean beef
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However, I have been informed by another recent quester that he will ask you to do these errands until you fetch a Mud fish to hand him.

Apparently the error is that he no longer asks directly for one, but merely mutters about it.

Working on this now, will continue to update.


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post Nov 23 2009, 08:13 AM
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The quest hasn't been changed, the walk through has always been inaccurate.

Set aside from the hand mudfish part, there's nothing that should block you because you can't figure it out.


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post Nov 23 2009, 09:30 PM
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I didn't say it blocked me entirely, but I ran back and forth on about 6 of those little quests because I expected to be asked about the Mudfish.

Also, the walkthrough almost certainly is incomplete in certain ways (albeit minor ones perhaps). Anyone who's ever ticketed KRU about a problem with it receives a note that says straight off "The walkthrough is wrong, don't trust it because you'll run into problems."


I would never be so bold as to say the walkthrough is wrong, or won't give adequate guidance to the quester, but just because it functions adequately should not be reason to not leave it up to revision. I'm just saying there are minor tweaks and additions that might make it even more useful.


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post Nov 24 2009, 12:15 PM
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Please share those minor tweaks! I will be glad to update the quest. NA is meant to make life easier for gamers.


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post Nov 24 2009, 10:58 PM
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Well, one thing that I think would have been nice to know was that the Temple was chock-full of Ogres, and that as I progressed more and more of them were hostile towards me. Also that they're not too strong and can be dispatched with...

Other than that, just knowing that the Ogre chef isn't going to expressly ask for the Mud fish, and that you can fish one before you go and be prepared...



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post Nov 25 2009, 06:35 AM
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I've made changes to the kitchen and temple parts of the quest. Please let me know if they are correct and keep the info coming!

http://www.nexusatlas.com/quests/soequestwalkthru.php


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post Nov 25 2009, 08:49 AM
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If you know who currently has the content that was on the old nexustk.net website, if it still exists. There was a correct walkthrough on there. Problem is I did that quests several years ago so I don't remember all the differences.

I'm sure though that 95% of any questions are solved with the hand mudfish part.


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post Nov 25 2009, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (Michike @ Nov 25 2009, 09:49 AM) *
If you know who currently has the content that was on the old nexustk.net website, if it still exists. There was a correct walkthrough on there. Problem is I did that quests several years ago so I don't remember all the differences.

I'm sure though that 95% of any questions are solved with the hand mudfish part.


I wouldn't go so far as to say the walkthrough on NA isn't correct.. I used the NA walkthrough and did the SOE quest in less than 30 hours.
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post Nov 26 2009, 03:35 AM
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The old NexNet was managed by TSWulf and several others. I've received permission to include all of that information into Nexus Atlas. I didn't remember that it had the SOE quest in there but if you say so I believe it.

The library tab in NA has a button of Nexfiles which is most of that material. Some of the other stuff is in armor, weapons, spells and items. I believe I have all of that old information and have updated whatever has changed. As I said, if you see anything that isn't correct just let me know. If you think it could be more accurately worded let me know. In my opinion, Nexus Atlas is here for the players, not for my pleasure (although I do love managing it).

Another great site is Nexus Wiki. Some people has told me that their SOE walk through has been easier for them to understand.


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post Nov 26 2009, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (AllyGator @ Nov 26 2009, 09:35 AM) *
The old NexNet was managed by TSWulf and several others. I've received permission to include all of that information into Nexus Atlas. I didn't remember that it had the SOE quest in there but if you say so I believe it.


What I meant is Bravesoul's old site nexustk.net.
I doubt it to have been in the NexNet site, since the quest came out when NA was already around.


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QUOTE (Michike @ Nov 26 2009, 08:47 AM) *
What I meant is Bravesoul's old site nexustk.net.
I doubt it to have been in the NexNet site, since the quest came out when NA was already around.


This is the only thing I could locate.
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post Nov 27 2009, 05:00 AM
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This is the quest page

And that was a good idea. smile.gif


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post Nov 28 2009, 04:55 PM
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4. Go back and click the Ogre Chef in the kitchen. He tells you that he needs a Mud fish to make Mud stew for a general.

List of items requested by the Ogre Chef:
-Meat scrap
-Acorn
-Snake meat
-Pork
-Fine snake meat
-Lean beef
You don't have to bring any of these items. He will NOT ask you for a Mudfish but that is what he wants. He mutters about a Mudfish and that is the clue needed to find out what he really wants. You can fish for this item before you start this part of the quest.


I would propose you change this to read:

4. Go back and click the Ogre Chef in the kitchen. He will repeatedly send you on errands requiring you to collect minor food items such as Meat scraps or Snake meat but you don't have to bring any of these items. While he WILL NOT ask you for a Mud fish, that is what he wants. He mutters out loud about a Mud fish and that is the clue needed to find out what he really wants.
(NOTE: You can fish for this item before you start this part of the quest: Say "Mud fish" to Wim, the fishing NPC in Buya. Then fish with the 1000 coin rod and 500 coin bait options until you catch a Mud fish. It is rumored that fishing as close to midnight (00 hour) will increase your chances of catching this elusive fish)


I think it would be a little bit clearer, and since there's no benefit to doing the Ogre Chef's errands there's really no need for the complete list of items.

In this case, direction 5. can be removed, and the rest renumbered accordingly.




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post Nov 28 2009, 09:35 PM
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Done - thanks!

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