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Hijack
post Jul 30 2016, 04:46 PM
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- EE culture crafting mastery upgrade coupon for 'experts' available, for Il San only, for limited time, perhaps until next patch. (Just bring what you need to manufacture, and consider the location)
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darkmaverick
post Jul 30 2016, 07:43 PM
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That sentence is practically gibberish, but it sounds like they've implemented a Kruna shop item to obtain master level in a craft so that Ee san culture can be obtained.

The sentence seems to imply you need to already be expert level, but given the sentence is written in a nonsensical way, who knows.

Though, I do believe I did write a post a few weeks ago suggesting something like this.


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post Jul 30 2016, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Jul 30 2016, 08:43 PM) *
That sentence is practically gibberish, but it sounds like they've implemented a Kruna shop item to obtain master level in a craft so that Ee san culture can be obtained.

The sentence seems to imply you need to already be expert level, but given the sentence is written in a nonsensical way, who knows.


Checked the kruna shop, no new item in there related to crafting. That was my first guess when I saw it too. Asking some friends that still play for info.

Edit: Looking at the community board, people have not figured out what items are required just yet.


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Hijack
post Jul 30 2016, 09:00 PM
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I mean if they made Ee culture easier to get, then bravo.

I don't know how many times I have posted here that ee culture and sam wisdom need to be reduced. Glad they finally listened for wisdom, now culture. Hopefully.
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post Jul 30 2016, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (darkmaverick @ Jul 30 2016, 05:43 PM) *
Though, I do believe I did write a post a few weeks ago suggesting something like this.


Wouldn't want to leave out any opportunity to give yourself credit for the 'development' of nexustk, thanks for sharing!
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BeffyCabeza
post Jul 31 2016, 06:09 AM
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I am an Il san chongun, Master Miner, Grand Master Smelter, Master Smith.


What I used:

20 Crafted Amber
20 ginko wood
20 Fine cloth
15 Fine Metal
50 Malgal Insignia

Provides you with Ee Crafting Master coupon.

You then take it to Bon-Hwa, with having Expert crafting. It will then give you the completion of Ee Culture

~Celandrius~


Happened to see this on the Comm board earlier. You still have to have Expert apparently.


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Hijack
post Jul 31 2016, 08:40 AM
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These are the types of changes needed

Double exp for 1-99 and make it soloable
Ee and Sam marks easier to get
Make Sa easier to get when Oh comes out
I would even add a exp boost under Sa stats at this point too
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SungKen
post Jul 31 2016, 04:20 PM
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I like how they are doing this and they are saying it is temporary. They are doing it for people like me I guess that have never gotten past il-san because I patently refused to do that EE san trial. I really do appreciate this effort by Wony and/or Kru. Its noted in my heart.

Also along the lines of taking credit, I would like to point out that the day before they instuted the new arena I made a post on comm board saying we needed something like that. So I would like ALL (not a piece or part of) the credit for this new arena. Thank you all.


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Hijack
post Jul 31 2016, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (SungKen @ Jul 31 2016, 04:20 PM) *
Also along the lines of taking credit, I would like to point out that the day before they instuted the new arena I made a post on comm board saying we needed something like that. So I would like ALL (not a piece or part of) the credit for this new arena. Thank you all.


make sure you put it on your resume
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post Jul 31 2016, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (SungKen @ Jul 31 2016, 04:20 PM) *
I like how they are doing this and they are saying it is temporary. They are doing it for people like me I guess that have never gotten past il-san because I patently refused to do that EE san trial. I really do appreciate this effort by Wony and/or Kru. Its noted in my heart.

Also along the lines of taking credit, I would like to point out that the day before they instuted the new arena I made a post on comm board saying we needed something like that. So I would like ALL (not a piece or part of) the credit for this new arena. Thank you all.



If only you put forth all that effort during your 15 years of playing into making a decent poem or story instead of waiting for things to be handed to you.
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Hijack
post Jul 31 2016, 06:07 PM
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Just wait until they sell them for kruna. That's probably why this will only last to next patch.
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post Jul 31 2016, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Hijack @ Jul 31 2016, 06:40 AM) *
These are the types of changes needed

Double exp for 1-99 and make it soloable
Ee and Sam marks easier to get
Make Sa easier to get when Oh comes out
I would even add a exp boost under Sa stats at this point too

I thought up until oh san we should be:

1-99 soloable through hunting and quests, lots of exploration quests, lots of reading up on history to get people hooked into that side of the game, soloing bosses/caves. Takes maybe 3-5 days.

99-Il stat - 8x exp.
Il stat-Ee sat - 6x exp.
Ee stat-sam stat - 5x exp.
Sam stat-sa stat - 4x exp.
Sa stat-oh stat - 3x exp.

Also take sc out of PvE so soloing is more of a possibility.


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post Jul 31 2016, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (oogabooga @ Jul 31 2016, 06:04 PM) *
If only you put forth all that effort during your 15 years of playing into making a decent poem or story instead of waiting for things to be handed to you.


Yeah I should have written more poems... I probably only tried like 20 times over the years (which is like nothing compared to the hundreds of chances I would have had) but to do that I would have had to kept paying 10 dollars a month, so that I could once a week write a horrible story and poem and pray to god that I would win so I could go back to actually playing the game. Or my other option was to play another character of a path I didnt enjoy as much just to eventually run into the same brick wall.


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post Aug 2 2016, 03:05 AM
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One month equated to 4 chances to win, each week 2 people won with 4 HMs. Some weeks only 6 people enter. If you go a month and dont even get an HM you, well, kinda suck.
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post Aug 2 2016, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Qwertyer @ Aug 2 2016, 03:05 AM) *
One month equated to 4 chances to win, each week 2 people won with 4 HMs. Some weeks only 6 people enter. If you go a month and dont even get an HM you, well, kinda suck.


It's only 1st, 2nd, and 2 HMs now.
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post Aug 2 2016, 08:58 AM
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I dont agree with getting every single person in the game up to Sa San Stats so easily (IE Doctor's suggestion) This is a game dont forget, many people play games for different reasons. The people who want to get to Sa san stats so quickly through increased EXP just want all of their characters to be top characters.

You should still have to put in work if you want your characters to be the best in the game.

I for one am not a big hunter, and dont care much about it, i pass time in other ways on the game. Massive stats are not my motivator.

I do think that being able to attain the marks easier is a great thing though.
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post Aug 2 2016, 12:31 PM
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Sa san doesn't make you a top character. It puts you in the top 1500~ players assuming all people all registered, it puts you in the top 500 if nobody else registered except for who was around today. Oh San puts you in the top 170 today. Now, hunt another 1.28million mana after you reach oh san. That puts you in the top 50 players right now.

Really think it's unreasonable to bring everyone up to sa san/oh san and then let the exp be normalized after that?


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post Aug 2 2016, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (Doctor @ Aug 2 2016, 12:31 PM) *
Sa san doesn't make you a top character. It puts you in the top 1500~ players assuming all people all registered, it puts you in the top 500 if nobody else registered except for who was around today. Oh San puts you in the top 170 today. Now, hunt another 1.28million mana after you reach oh san. That puts you in the top 50 players right now.

Really think it's unreasonable to bring everyone up to sa san/oh san and then let the exp be normalized after that?


Would be great if this could be shown on a graph.

I don't think people understand how strong the Top 50 are, and what their total EXP is.
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post Aug 2 2016, 07:25 PM
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99-Oh san stat amounts were calculated by assuming a 1:1 ratio, so at Ee you're 160/160, Oh san 1.28/1.28, etc.

Full list of values: 20000, 240000, 480000, 960000, 1920000, 3840000, 4750000, 5670000, 6540000, 7800000, 9450000, 10500000, 15000000.

If you want to put this into even greater terms:



These are the numbers and the amount of experience (turn those k's into t's... that stands for TRILLION) that is needed to generate said stats: 4.29, 50.4, 124.8, 369.6, 1243.2, 4526.4, 6752, 9543.684, 11830.188, 16575.408, 32958, 45508, 58160.136.

To put that in even greater words, assuming you're getting maxes every 30 minutes no more no less, from sam san to sa san it will take you 436.8 hours. From sa san to oh san it will take you 1641.6 hours. If you wanted to catch up to Egg's stats, you would need to spend 6778 hours or 284 full days of your life hunting.

Are we starting to get a clearer picture of the problem here? There NEEDS to be a way to get people on the lower end of the spectrum to generate experience faster.

EDIT: Sry for stretchin da page.


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post Aug 2 2016, 09:01 PM
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Here's another graph for you. Here's all the rogues above il san stat (1465 rogues total) in the game as captured by StatAddict. Dreezy is marked here, he's the #210 rogue, he's at a 2.15m power level, or 168 total hours played solely hunting assuming 30 minutes per max.

To get to Oh San stats by hunting nothing but vita (leaving him at a horrible stat ratio of 2.56m/415k) he will need to hunt an additional 298.5 hours. To break into the top #100 he will have to hunt an additional 1500 hours.


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